The Ultimate Stack thread...

**ScrapTower** · 12-01-2006, 19:17

Originally Posted by Flavius Gonzo

Hmmm... that's for sure a potent stack!

However, swordsmen get destroyed by a head on cavalry charge, wouldn't you want some spearmen in there to counter this? If you're playing as the english though, you don't have many options here except for mercs and levys.

And personally, I find battles to be much more fun with arty flinging fireballs at the enemy.

So, I'd take your list, and I'd sub out 2 archers, 2 swords, and 3 knights for:

1 general
2 spears
4 trebuchets

But I guess it's a matter of preference!!

There is no reason your swords should ever be exposed to a head on cav charge if you have 8 knights of your own and 6 steak walls.

**Somebody Else** · 12-01-2006, 19:33

HRE...

General (someone's got to be in charge...)
2 Culverins (deal with any enemy artillery, and cause merry havoc on troops)
4 Pavise X-bows (to absorb and send away projectiles)
2 Arquebusiers (I like the pretty smoke puffs)
5 Gothic knights (name something - not a pachyderm - that these can't charge down)
4 Reiters (again, pretty smoke puffs, plus handy in a proper fight too!)
2 Zweihanders (for wall-taking)

Pretty random assortment, oughta work though...

**IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer** · 12-01-2006, 19:37

As The Turks, I usually go with...

1 General
7 Janissary Heavy Infantry
6 Qapukulu
4 Sipahis
2 Turkomens

Now that I got Musketeers, though, I'm starting to change things to this:

1 General
6 Janissary Heavy Infantry
2 Janissary Musketeers
6 Qapukulu
4 Sipahis
1 Turkomens

**Gray Beard** · 05-11-2007, 06:45

Byzantine (Infantry Option)
4 X Varangian Guard
4 X Dis Mounted Latinkons
4 X Spear Militia with armor Upgrades
4 X Guard Archer
2 X Family Members
2 X Other Heavy Cavalry

Variants of this using Byzantine Swordmen or Dismounted Lancers can also be pretty good especially for auto resolved battles. The Guard Archers are tougher than most infantry so you can also replace the Spearmen with other heavy infantry

Byzantine Cavalry Option
2 X Family Members
8 X Vartoiria (sp?)
5 X Latinkons
5 X Skythikon

**sapi** · 05-11-2007, 07:35

Ultimate stack:
20x vards

Realistic stack:
6x byz inf
4x varangian guard
4x vards
4x kataphractoi
2x generals

**Shahed** · 05-11-2007, 07:43

20 Vards => invincible.

**Frederick_I_Barbarossa** · 05-11-2007, 07:51

Milan:
1 General
9 Pavise Crossbows
5 Miscellaneous Infantry (including 2 Italian Spears on flanks)
3 Templars
2 Militia Cav or Ballistas

England:
1 General
4 Miscellaneous Infantry (need pikes for flanks)
3 Templars or English Knights
2 Militia/Light Cav or Ballistas or more archers
10 Longbows/Sherwood Archers

I like my archers...alot...

**Philbert** · 05-14-2007, 14:33

Originally Posted by ScrapTower

There is no reason your swords should ever be exposed to a head on cav charge if you have 8 knights of your own and 6 steak walls.

Funny typo: in game they are actually called "stake walls" but I guess once the horses run into them they would become walls of steak.

**FactionHeir** · 05-14-2007, 14:56

Originally Posted by Philbert

Funny typo: in game they are actually called "stake walls" but I guess once the horses run into them they would become walls of steak.

How's horse taste?

**John_Longarrow** · 05-14-2007, 22:51

FactionHeir,

Its very good, especially if you find someone who knows how to butcher and prepare it.

As for ultimate stack, how about 20x Rocket Elephants? If nothing else, the initial volley will be worth watching!

**Shahed** · 05-15-2007, 00:39

I've done that.

I'd have to agree. For pure destructive power without doing a thing, 20 Elephant Artillery or 20 Elephant Rockteers cannot be matched.

Just control + A, lgroup, shift+3, loose formation, auto fire-on, hit start and have a beer.