Stop the whining...

**ScrapTower** · 12-06-2006, 08:38

What about whining about the whiners who are whining about the people who are whining about the original whiners?

Thats not my score card dude, thats the self proclaimed fanboy's. I was lashing out at him because he likes to raid threads and post useless junk and change the subject.

**Xaziv** · 12-06-2006, 08:46

Criticism is a good thing --- threads like this are not. Tell me, has anything productive came out this thread? Has anyone learned something? Seems like just a bunch of people complaining about certain things.

Without criticism games would suck. Encourage the whining, discourage the spamming.

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**Yun Dog** · 12-06-2006, 08:52

Originally Posted by ScrapTower

What about whining about the whiners who are whining about the people who are whining about the original whiners?

Thats not my score card dude, thats the self proclaimed fanboy's. I was lashing out at him because he likes to raid threads and post useless junk and change the subject.

quote me anywhere I posted that...

see its blatant lies and stupid nonsense like that that pisses people off

your just posting stuff to bait people... and I got all the time in world

I think threads like this can have their uses

sometimes its good to let a little water on board.... it flushes out the rats

**ScrapTower** · 12-06-2006, 09:05

I never lie and i dont need to quote you. Here is your post:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...72#post1227572

Yeah you know... the glass is half full guy, thats him.

**Yun Dog** · 12-06-2006, 09:20

Originally Posted by ScrapTower

I never lie and i dont need to quote you. Here is your post:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...72#post1227572

Yeah you know... the glass is half full guy, thats him.

you really are a bottom feader arnt you

you quote a post I made regarding MTWII prediction - before the game even came out - and tried to pass it off as my opinion of the game

I really think you could troll a bit harder if you tried - hey look up some of my posts from years ago re: RTW - then youll really see somethin

hey look guys Ive got my own 'fanboy' / stalker

**ScrapTower** · 12-06-2006, 09:23

Hey look guys, a hypocrite. I neednt look far to see you are full off wind.

**Shahed** · 12-06-2006, 10:07

I agree whining is no good, but neither is ranting.

No whining here.

Trying to help make the game better, by stating my view on what can be improved, what is broken and what should be enhanced (new features).

Everyone is entitled to their opinions... If people feel the game is rushed then, they feel that way. Period. They have the right to express themselves.

People have a right to complain if they want or need to complain., and they should complain. Why the hell should'nt they ?

I'd say do as we did with all the TW games, play and test and play and test.. feed CA the info and hope for the best. If you have to complain then complain, for sure, complain.

That's all you can do... and oh yeah enjoy the game in the meantime.

I sure am !

**econ21** · 12-06-2006, 10:20

Oh dear lord, what a thread to wake up to. And I haven't even had my second cup of coffee.

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EDIT: OK, after the end of my second cup of coffee, I have given out 7 warnings for this thread. Not bad when there are only 30 post.

In case anyone warned wants to PM me complaining about a warning, let me just say this: the symbol of the Org is

. We aren't just another forum where people can rant, flame, swear and attack each other. We set high standards and usually these are met, which is why people come here.

**PaulTa** · 12-06-2006, 09:09

Hey, no one on here is saying that the game is without flaws. The passive AI bug is an issue that has been documented and commented on at least a thousand freakin' times, but the AI is OVERALL still pretty decent.

I just got done playing a battle in my HRE game where I converted bologna to a castle. I had my zweihanders, armoured sarges, and merc crossbowmen against a huge mess of milanese italian militia and crossbowmen.

The enemy army lined up and took some of the bolts, but the cavalry decided that they didn't like being hammered and charged... well my armored sarges finished them off, and I moved in my own zweihanders in a braveheart sort of fashion.

Well the enemy army couldn't hold up against Imperial steel, and routed... but as I was chasing down routers, I stumbled upon a group left by the "useless" AI that was left in the woods to hide. It was made up of Spear militia, their best units on the field, and most of their geonese crossbows. Well the crossbows started poking holes in my beloved zweihanders, and the italian spear militia gave a good fight when I finally managed to push my winded infantry into them.

The AI pulled a classic textbook routing ambush on my and claimed a few of my best infantry units as a result. They still lost the battle, but now my army will be more than a bit lacking when I siege Milan. This, in my opinion, is the pinnacle of gaming AI to date.

Now while I was watching the battle with nearly 2000 units on each side, I was admiring the graphics aspect. The enemy soldiers had detailed animations when they were hit by crossbow bolts, were covered in blood, and actually slumped and died instead of turning into ground cover immediately. This is what I call polish.

The game is amazing despite it's quirks, which is why I can't stand these nitpicks about little details that are either useless whining or issues that are already being addressed. I spent 50 bucks of my hard earned cash as a broke college student on this game, and I would have happily shelled out 75 bucks if I had a chance to test it out first and see how magnificent it is. Compared to other strategy games on the market, which is really my favorite kind of game, Total War wins by a landslide.