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    Default 17 year old Sentenced to 90 Years for Vicious Attack

    That's right, a 17 year who was part of a vicious, long, sadistic and brutal attack that was racially motivated, was sentenced to 90 years, and will have no chance of parole unitl he's 47 years old. Also note: noone got killed, so he didn't commit murder.

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    Teen sentenced to 90 years for brutal attack


    A 17-year-old suburban teen was sentenced Monday to 90 years in prison in the brutal attack of a Hispanic boy who was beaten, kicked, stomped, burned and sodomized with the plastic pole of a patio umbrella.

    Keith Turner was the second teen convicted of aggravated sexual assault in the April attack at a house in Spring, north of Houston.

    David Henry Tuck, 18, was convicted and sentenced to life in prison on Nov. 16.

    Turner was convicted late Friday after about 90 minutes of deliberations. The jury took about five hours over two days to reach the sentence of 90 years.

    Turner will have to serve at least 30 years before becoming eligible for parole.

    Although Turner was the younger of the assailants and didn’t have the history of racial attacks that colored Tuck’s past, it was his idea to use the patio umbrella pole in the attack.

    Turner, Tuck, the victim and two other teens were partying at a house in Spring, drinking and taking cocaine and Xanax.

    Twelve-year-old Danielle Sons, who was at the party at her house, told the other boys that the victim had tried to kiss her, prompting the attack.

    Tuck shouted racial slurs and “white power” as he and Turner kicked the then 17-year-old, cut him with a knife, sodomized him with a plastic pipe and poured bleach on him in an assault that lasted up to five hours.

    The victim was left bleeding in the backyard until dawn, when Sons and her brother, Gus, finally woke their mother, who slept through it.

    During Turner’s trial, jurors saw a videotaped statement by Turner in which he admitted to being the first one to grab the umbrella pole and joking about using it to sodomize the victim.


    Provides a sort of odd counter perspective to countries where men get off on parole after 5 years for raping a child.

    Even I did a double take when I read about this sentence, though.

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    Tuck shouted racial slurs and “white power” as he and Turner kicked the then 17-year-old, cut him with a knife, sodomized him with a plastic pipe and poured bleach on him in an assault that lasted up to five hours.

    The victim was left bleeding in the backyard until dawn, when Sons and her brother, Gus, finally woke their mother, who slept through it.

    During Turner’s trial, jurors saw a videotaped statement by Turner in which he admitted to being the first one to grab the umbrella pole and joking about using it to sodomize the victim.
    90 years seems about right to me.

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    Id hate to be those jurors....
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    Quote Originally Posted by holybandit
    Id hate to be those jurors....
    I'd love to be the judge handing out the sentence though.

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    sentance seems a bit high to me, but it was a particularly violent attack, so he can't really complain

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    The jury took about five hours over two days to reach the sentence of 90 years.
    The jury decided his sentence?
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    Provides a sort of odd counter perspective to countries where men get off on parole after 5 years for raping a child.
    USA = 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by article
    The victim was left bleeding in the backyard until dawn, when Sons and her brother, Gus, finally woke their mother, who slept through it.
    I think I see the root of the problem here...
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    Life is prison is about right. That or an "eye for an eye". If the victim had died, he should have been executed.

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    That should be maximum 2-4 years in prison. What good does it make to rob an individual for his entire active adult life for one action? Completely baffles me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone
    I think I see the root of the problem here...
    im not sure i do - we all need to sleep?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sjakihata
    That should be maximum 2-4 years in prison. What good does it make to rob an individual for his entire active adult life for one action? Completely baffles me.
    I think i agree, although maybe more than 2-4 because it was particularly vioent + racially motivated,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjakihata
    That should be maximum 2-4 years in prison. What good does it make to rob an individual for his entire active adult life for one action? Completely baffles me.
    Well, he tortured him for five hours, so it wasn't a moment of rage. He joked about it afterwards so remorse wouldn't stop him. And it was racially motivated so he has plenty of people to choose from to do it again. If he's in prison he won't.


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    Owing to the complete failure of rehabilitation programmes in most cases, yes, prison is for punishment and protection of the public.

    That should be maximum 2-4 years in prison. What good does it make to rob an individual for his entire active adult life for one action? Completely baffles me.
    If such an incident ever happened to you, I would like to see you say that the sentence is unfair...
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    That should be maximum 2-4 years in prison. What good does it make to rob an individual for his entire active adult life for one action? Completely baffles me.
    I'm all for re-habilitation, but I'm pretty sure that anyone who sodomizes someone with a garden umbrella is pretty violent, and might just pose a danger to others if he was released so soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Henry V
    Owing to the complete failure of rehabilitation programmes in most cases, yes, prison is for punishment and protection of the public.
    I agree that protection is very important, and in the case of definate (especially pre-meditated) murders and rape i would normally agree to a life sentance etc. however re-habilitation has to be equally important, its can be made more effective, and should be.

    Punishment is pointless, because it serves no purpose, protection and rehabilitation do...

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    Punishment is deterrent. I don't know why people deny this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scurvy
    im not sure i do - we all need to sleep?
    Quote Originally Posted by article
    Turner, Tuck, the victim and two other teens were partying at a house in Spring, drinking and taking cocaine and Xanax.

    Twelve-year-old Danielle Sons, who was at the party at her house, told the other boys that the victim had tried to kiss her, prompting the attack.
    So the mother was present at the house, with her 12-year old daughter, and there was a party at the same house with booze, coke, and Xanax. You seriously don't see what the problem is? Whatever happened to parental responsibility? The mother deserves at least 5 years for letting this happen in the first place.
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    Provides a sort of odd counter perspective to countries where men get off on parole after 5 years for raping a child.
    Welcome to Texas.

    He deserve's every moment he gets in jail. The crime was dispicable, and that article's even assuming he actually kissed her. Both the kid who was attacked and the younger girl denied that.

    The poor kid nearly died, he was in the hospital for months. They didn't just sodomize him with a pole. They kicked the pole in, it made it past his colon and liver. The bleach was also poored into his rectum after he was sodomized, an attempt to "clean up". After all that he joked about it with his friends, and left him for dead.

    Whats sad is, there wasnt one person involved with this. There was a group of 4 that all participated in this. I do hope they all recieve similiar sentences.

    The kid who was torchered has severe life long damage to many lower internal organs. No this sentence is still to light, life without parole. Screw rehabilitation for these criminals.
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    I don't agree with the death sentence. But I have no problems with long sentences for heinous crimes... at least if you get the verdict wrong you can release him from jail.

    Also as the world is overpopulated why give a fig if the worst of the worst are locked away because they don't 'play well with others'. Its not like we are down to the last 400 of us and need everyone to continue the species. Common DNA is not enough for a person to be a person, blueprints do not a house make.

    I would like to see the 12 year old put into protective custody and the parent have the book thrown at her for not providing proper supervision, safe place etc etc.
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    given his age, the UK has a rather nice advantage over US sentencing here....

    Detentiob at Her Majesty's pleasure... in other words, detained until we see fit to release you, however long that might be. indeterminate sentences can be fun.


    but the UK wouldn't be handing out non custodial sentences for this crime, its racially aggravated, a sustained attack, heavy use of violence, against a minor, in the presense of minors.... in the UK... but no death...


    hmmm 16 year minimum term with no maximum, probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Black Prince
    given his age, the UK has a rather nice advantage over US sentencing here....

    Detentiob at Her Majesty's pleasure... in other words, detained until we see fit to release you, however long that might be. indeterminate sentences can be fun.


    but the UK wouldn't be handing out non custodial sentences for this crime, its racially aggravated, a sustained attack, heavy use of violence, against a minor, in the presense of minors.... in the UK... but no death...


    hmmm 16 year minimum term with no maximum, probably.
    Hmmm I now have a fond love for a UK law.

    Only problem is the kid is still living on borrowed time. Could still very well die becuase of this rape and brutal attack.
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    Which brings up an interesting question. What might such an offense garner as punishment in other countries? Holland? Germany? Mexico? Indonesia? Morrocco? Poland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukrikhan
    Germany?
    5 years max would be my guess (due to his age)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    Punishment is deterrent. I don't know why people deny this.
    'Cause it doesn't work, at least by its lonesome. You do know what Medieval law was like, right ? The alarming regularity with which its assorted corporal punishements were meted out ought to tell a bit about just how effective mere fear of harsh punishements is at keeping people from doing bad things...

    Besides, we don't have very harsh sentences over here (Murder One nets you round fourteen years, the functional maximum sentence, tops by itself) yet our rate of serious crimes is fairly low.

    I don't incidentally have any idea how our legal system would actually deal with this case. I strongly suspect the fellows would get put through the procedures to determine if the suspect is of sufficiently sound mind to be held legally responsible for his actions (those who are determined not to be incidentally get indefinite closed section at the nuthouse until the shrinks think they're better...) though.
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    The alarming regularity with which its assorted corporal punishements were meted out ought to tell a bit about just how effective mere fear of harsh punishements is at keeping people from doing bad things...
    But do we know the number of crimes that would have been committed had such harsh punishments not been given?

    Simply because some people arent detered, does not mean harsh punishments don't deter others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the Black Prince
    given his age, the UK has a rather nice advantage over US sentencing here....

    Detentiob at Her Majesty's pleasure... in other words, detained until we see fit to release you, however long that might be. indeterminate sentences can be fun.
    We have something close to that in Canada. If the Crown is successful in having a judge declare a convict to be a "Dangerous Offender" then he/she can be held until such time as they can prove that they no longer fit this category. It's very hard for the Crown to have this label slapped on somebody (and rightly so), but once it's on there they are pretty much staying in jail until they die.

    As far as the sentence in this case goes, I think it's too short. I would have liked to see 300 years, eligible for parole in 100 years, because it's actually conceivable that this punk might live to the age of 117.
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    Imprisonment is a deterrent they cry, as another offender is thrown into jail!
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    Violent crime is on the decrease in the USA, and it seems we have the fullest jails. Coincidence?

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    I believe the mother should also get some sort of punishment, as it was her house and she neglected her duty to those under her jurisdiction.

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