Do HRE die early in your campaign?

[CaptainSolo]

I have noticed that they have struggled in my games too,usually at the hands of the Danes.I restarted a game once as they were destroyed pretty early.Checking the diplomacy screen regularly they always seem to be at war with everyone.
I have also restarted a game when the French were down to one province,just didnt seem right to me,they are one of the factions i really like to have in my game.

[FactionHeir]

HRE usually lives fairly long in my games until I pick on them. Usually its the Poles which get eliminated fairly early and Venice usually ends up as someone's vassal.
Guess it depends.

[Sarmatian]

The HRE dies early in my campaigns, too. I think it has something to do with overpowered Danes. They usually end up being pretty strong. They can be only attacked by HRE, which allways have their hands full with venetians, poles, hungarians, milan, french. So they defeat HRE easily, and the expand everywhere. Another scandinavian faction could solve that. They can keep the danes busy, like scots do with english. Or putting land bridges between scandinavia and russia... Only once I've seen Danes getting their butt kicked by the english, when english defeated the scots early in the game and conquered whole france.

[katank]

I checked out the Danes and concluded they are totally overpowered. Not only do they have a wide assortment of armourpiercing infantry and cavalry, they get access to Norse archers at castle level (12/17 melee which is better than retinue longbows) and also warclerics (armour piercing heavy cav that can put up a decent fight against lancers and gothic knights) available at city level.

This makes smashing the HRE as the Danes quite easy.

[CrownOfSwords]

In everysingle one of my campaigns the HRE as been totally crushed, whether smashed into only having like 2 provinces or completely annihilated. Im suprised many of you say the French get wiped out in nearly all my campaigns other than the ones I crushed them myself theyve survived and ended up being one of the super powers i have to face. I have yet to see anything like the Moors take all of western europe! The spanish usually crush them. But i agree about the Danes in all of my campaigns theyve totally blitzkrieged the map, even in my Spanish campaign where I conquered all of spain then focused on the holy lands im dealing with the Danes invading me from the north lol.