Why no Elephants!!???!?!?

**Zaknafien** · 12-21-2006, 21:04

Maybe if you looked around a little bit you'd find the answer your looking for in a thread almost exactly like this one. And elephants are not recruitable in the city of Carthage. Try further west bud.

**Tellos Athenaios** · 12-21-2006, 22:08

In other words: in those days you wouldn't have seen a single elephant in the wild over there. Carthage got it's elephants from the forests to the west, rather than the hills and lowland surrounding the city itself.

**-Praetor-** · 12-21-2006, 22:26

LOL!!!

Here are two threads where you may find more extense answers:

Carthage has no elephants!

Can the Romani get elephants?

Cheers!!!!

PS: LMAO

**[cF]HanBaal** · 12-21-2006, 22:42

but then there's the fact that Kart-Hadast had 300 elephant's 'garages' and eventually had home breeding of elephants. The last surviving elephant Hannibal had rampaging in Italy (even after Trebbia) was from the largest species of elephants, the syrian breed (even bigger than the African Plain elephants), called Syrus.

So, I wouldn't doubt that as the game begins (before romans forbid Karthadast to breed war elephants in the outcome of the 2nd punic war) the Karthadastim were breeding and training other species of elephants at home since they were prepared for that *300 garages*, just like Epirus (either the more docile indian elephants, the mentioned Syrian giants or even the wilder African plain elephants since Karthadast for long had crossed the Sahara as documented). This is backed by other modern sources too.

**Tyfus** · 12-21-2006, 22:50

Thanks, and I'm sorry I didn't see the other threads. Sometimes ya just gotta be stoopid.

**Kralizec** · 12-24-2006, 19:42

I don't think that the Syrian elephants were a seperate species. AFAIK they were of the Indian variety and they were imported by the Seleucids under a deal with the Mauryan empire.

Regardless, the African savanah elephant is bigger then any other species.

**Cheexsta** · 12-25-2006, 01:56

but then there's the fact that Kart-Hadast had 300 elephant's 'garages' and eventually had home breeding of elephants. The last surviving elephant Hannibal had rampaging in Italy (even after Trebbia) was from the largest species of elephants, the syrian breed (even bigger than the African Plain elephants), called Syrus.

Sources? Because I seem to recall a recent conversation I had with an historian about this supposed Syrian elephant and its existence (or lack thereof)...