Out of Character thread

[econ21]

I'll meet you half way at 5 for a full stack, 3 for a half stack, as opposed to 8 and 4.

Make it 6 and 3, and we have a deal. (5 would be fine for swords, but shoe-horning the Landsknecht pikemen in makes it a little tight). Six would also allow all our knights to be dismounted, except the generals (who can't be).

Just as a historical note, here's the old german titles of nobility and our equivilants.

Great, thanks. I'll put them in the rules (when I get around to editing them). I guess they should be optional. Personally, I like Ritter, Graf, GeneralFeldmarshall, Prinz and Kaiser. But I prefer Elector to Kurfurst and especially Duke to Herzog (makes me think of Zionism for some reason...). Kanzler for Chancellor would not sound good, either.

In terms of mods, there seem to be at least three for the vices and virtues:

Seneschal.the’s Medifix 1.2
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...37&postcount=1

kobal.fr’s CherryVanilla mod:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...37&postcount=1

Sarastro’s Vice and Virtues fixes 1.1
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...85&postcount=1

I haven't tried any, although reading about them, I'm inclined to Medifix. It seems to fix more than CherryVanilla, but seems to have less new traits "to be beta-tested" than Sarastro's mod. I think it is a priority to get the vices and virtues in good shape, as they will be very important in role-playing our characters (we don't want a mob of pagan magicians etc).

The other modding thing I am looking into are the two-handed weapon fixes, but twcenter is down right now so I haven't got much further than a recommendation for zxiang's 2h fix (with some saying it is overpowered). I think with battle map tweaks like this, we can mod as we go (the stats are loaded fresh each time you load the game). By contrast, change vices and virtues files mid-game could mess up somethings (the triggers are set in the savegame).

We only need to fix on mods by Friday when the first Chancellor actually starts playing - the political rules though we should agree on by Monday 6pm, when the Diet opens.

[DMu]

Hi,

I'd like to play as a member of the House of Austria

I can only play battles on weekends though, so maybe most of my battles would end up being auto resolved.

Thanks

[Lucjan]

Ok, 6 and 3 is fine. We've got a deal.

[Braden]

Gentlemen!

I have some wonderous news...

...I have and CAN play Medieval 2!

My laptop is more than able to handle is, although I've only tested with one custom battle and two turns of an English campaign its been ok so far.

using Large size units as well.

Haven't looked yet at the above rules etc but it looks likely that I could be available to take a more active part in the new PBeM than I thought.

Also, one of my close friends (just back in the country) is very interested in the format we're using and whilst he's running M2 he may be interested in joining us.

Will keep you updated on that and he may well just register and post anyway.

Currently downloading the 1.1 patch for M2 so I start bang up to date.

[Warluster]

When we download the patch, where do we put it?

[Lucjan]

Great to hear Braden! We were hoping you'd be able to find a way.

As far as patch 1.1 Download it to anywhere, extract it to the file it's downloaded in, then click on the icon that looks like a box of books to further unpack a bunch of files, then, finally, click the setup icon to install the patch to the medieval 2 directory automatically.

[GeneralHankerchief]

This PBM should really have a subtitle.

King of the Romans - or "The Blind Leading the Blind"

It will definitely be... erm... interesting.

[OverKnight]

If you'll have a noob I'd love to play.

I've got M2 1.1 at home, time to kill at work (most nights), and internet at both places.

I've played M2 a decent amount and RTW a lot. I'm not an expert at file sharing, image hosting or using enriched text or pictures in a post but I'll bring myself up speed. Being avatar-less will allow me some time to get my feet wet.

As for house, it looks like Bavaria or Franconia could use another member, feel free to assign me to either to balance the numbers. Given from what I've heard about HRE in the game all fronts should be "interesting".

Time to go brush up on my history.

[Lucjan]

I'm thoroughly pleased and impressed with the initial turnout for the game now that we've greatly simplified the rules and stuck to the wots tradition for the majority of the pbem mechanics. Nice job everybody for pulling this together, particularly econ, whose organisational skills and rationale continue to make their mark on all of our new ideas, bringing everybody into a pleasing success story.

[SwordsMaster]

Hey all,

I'd like to join this thing, but I will need time off and won't be participating as actively as others might. If this is ok, I'd like to join the House of Bavaria.

Cheers

[Ituralde]

Ituralde: yes, people can take agents as avatars. I think we have a diplomat, maybe a spy and a priest. They would all be suitable.

Sorry to come back to this again but I don't think I've fully grasped the concept yet. So agents like diplomats, spies and priests can be taken by players. Will this elevate the respective agents to the ranks of an elector? What powers will the player have over his avatar? Since agents can not fight battles and also not become governors or chancellor (correct me if I'm mistaken) what incentive is there to choose an agent over a general if both are available. As much as I like the role-playing possibilities offered by some of the agents, I don't know yet if I'm willing to sacrifice my right of refusal for a general with his huge potential of character development, governorship and last but not least the abiltiy fo fight battles, for any of them.
Maybe someone could shed some light into the whole thing for me as I'm really a little confused right now. For example, the starting agents have not been assigned as avatars to any person although they clearly could be.


On another not I'd like to thank econ21 for setting this up and reflecting my obsession with the Italian City States in the first post of this thread.
Also I'd like to extend a courtous greeting to Tamur, First Elector of Austiria. I might just stick with you as long as we get our hands on Bologna.

Cheers

Ituralde

[OverKnight]

I just noticed this while looking at the overview page in the game, apologies to those who already know:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

One of our victory conditions is taking Rome. I thought it was Jerusalem like the other Catholic factions. This should provide for an interesting end game. Sorry for the graphic but I wanted to practice my posting skills.

[Lucjan]

Nice posting skills.

By the way, does anybody else feel like shooting whoever's idea it was to allow that immensely irritating "zap the mosquito" banner?

[IvarrWolfsong]

Not only am I a Johnny-come-lately and new to this type of turn based RP text play, but I am new to The Guild Boards to boot.

However, I am not new to RPing or to the TW series. If you will have me, I would happily join you. I would be willing to play an elector from which ever House is currently low, or if those positions are filled, as the German Cardinal if he would be considered an elector.

The Cardinal could be fun considering that you could give him a Bishopric. The HRE and the Papacy have long been at odds over the Investitures of German Bishops (ask Pope Gregory XII...). There wouldn't be too much / any gameplay but the postings could be interesting.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, I'm gearing up to start my turn (thanks for the encouragement, dlain ). Have we fully decided which, if any, mods we're going to use?

Thanks.

[Braden]

Just a quick note: attempting to download the Medfix mod but the link from the download page doesn’t appear to be working. I’ll attempt it from Home but I suspect I may need another mirror.