Out of Character thread

[pevergreen]

We need our head

I hope my avatar is mad, would be so much fun.

In my opinion the settlement allocation shouldn't be limited to geographical proximity. Of course certain preferences should be made. But what if a prolonged war with Hungary forces us to take several provinces from Hungary? Surely they wouldn't all fall to the House of Austria, just because they happen to border on Hungary

Yes, but then the Diet could reject requests of Forming the Armies, if the familt members...

I propose that if, for example, the House of Austria partitions the Diet for an army to conquer a town, it must be seconed by people from other houses. Would stop 5 Austrian people seconding every edict
(or am i misinterpreting edict, we still have to vote them yes?)

[econ21]

In the list of edicts, I have only put down two seconders - more is unnecessary. We are going to vote on them (24 hour poll, starts Thursday 6pm UK time).

On the charter ammendement, I'd like to see the Emperor retain flexibility over allocation of settlements to Houses - broadly fair and broadly geographic, but not in a narrow legalistic sense (so I am against the ammendment). I see them basically as "rewards" or "favours" he can dispense according to his judgement. For example, if a Duke becomes a right hand man for the Emperor, providing lots of advice or help, he might be favoured. Or if one House proves very good at governing their settlements, they may be trusted with more etc. But the Emperor has no House so should not favour one faction per se.

[pevergreen]

And Since we are all people here for the fun and roleplaying, I dont think any house will be favoured overly. If i became Kaiser (Like thats going to happen), I would do everything in the good of the Empire, having one Victorious moment to remember my reign, but favouring my house too much. Maybe slight favouratism, but you could disown them if they went against you...so Many possibilites.

What happens if your general Rebels? Do you go to the back of the line?

[OverKnight]

I might be wrong but I believe it goes something like this:

The Chancellor conquers territory (farming out specific battles if needed), all factions in the Diet beg like starving puppies for dominion over said territory, Kaiser decides which Duchy (if any) to give it to. Once given it's permanent.

On another point, I find GH's pledge, charter amendment 1.1, a little confusing. If we don't like how the Kaiser is splitting things up we can't impeach him. We can impeach chancellors but not emperors. The worst we could do to the Kaiser is refuse to fight in battles or obstruct the diet or vote for a charter amendment to strip him of province allocating power. Of course if we could pass that one we could pass a charter amendment saying we could remove kaisers with an edict or 2/3 vote. Hmm. I've just confused myself.

[pevergreen]

Ingame?

[OverKnight]

Maybe the Austrians see it that way,but then they are also known for courting their own sisters.

Way to get the ball rolling Kagemusha! This session of the Diet should be fun. Welcome aboard.

[Kagemusha]

Way to get the ball rolling Kagemusha! This session of the Diet should be fun. Welcome aboard.

Thanks. I think we are going to have a great game.Little tension should create just the right atmosphere.

[Lucjan]

I haven't gone and read the latest diet proceedings yet, but here's my general opinion.

Kaiser, by rule of the current charter, distributes conquered provinces according to his own will.

Let's have some faith in this. I'm predicting that houses will soon become ignorant of their "directional inclinations" and we'll actually see Houses petitioning one another in the diet proceedings for territorial exchanges.

What I mean is -

For the sake of argument, let's say we're about 30 turns into the game and end up going to open war with France, who's had significant successes against England and controls the whole of modern day France and the low countries, minus Metz. I can see all four houses jumping to be involved in this big war, but that doesn't mean that all the conquered territories will be allocated to the western houses, Swabia and Franconia. Perhaps a general from Bavaria or does immensely well against the French armies, and thanks to his efforts, 2 full stacks of Frenchmen now lay six feet under and both Massillia and Dijon have been taken by his men. Swabia may have had a general that, while not performing quite as well, did make a good show of himself and without him occupying other French forces the Bavarian general would have been outnumbered and outmaneouvered. So, the Kaiser gives Dijon to Swabia and Massillia to Bavaria.

Here's where my anticipation of territorial redistribution deals comes in. Let's say Bavaria really has no interest in Massillia, but they own it. On the other hand, Swabia had, earlier in the game, been given control of Florence, which Bavaria does want, and does have an interest in. So naturally they take to the diet with an edict declaring the desire between the house of Swabia and the house of Bavaria to exchange ownership rights of Florence and Massillia.

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So, I say again, let's just let the property distribution take its natural course, I think we'll be pleased with the results.

[econ21]

Maybe the Austrians see it that way,but then they are also known for courting their own sisters.

Way to get the ball rolling Kagemusha!

Indeed - I managed to slam the car door on my finger this morning, making a generally miserable start to the day. But Kagemusha has provided me with an excellent tonic!

[Lucjan]

Yeah, despite Dietrich's rather stern IC response to the situation, I have to give both of them involved credit for brightening my day. That was awesome guys.

[Ituralde]

It surely was funny and I knew that edict 1.11 would haunt us in the future.