Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

[Csargo]

are you sure Andres send that PM?


If I pm you something I wouldn't speak of myself in the third person, and I doubt Andres would

I think Andres was just the messanger. I doubt he wrote the actual PM the GF probably did that, and of course the GF wouldn't send me the PM himself.

Warluster I am the one who tried to kill Prole like I said earlier. Everything leading up to this point is in the post before this one I posted.

[Sigurd]

HEHE.. good one Ichigo.

You just provided the town with much information to consider.
Knowing you I believe it is genuine.
Vote: AndrestheCunning aka AndrestheNOTsoCunningAnymore

[Sir Boo]

Do I even need an explanation here?

Vote: AndrestheCunning

[Stig]

I'm going to kill Csar if he made up that PM

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Andres

[GeneralHankerchief]

Oh, this pisses me off. Seriously. It's the first round of the GREATEST MAFIA GAME EVER and ONLY I DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Argh. In my one night alive, I've learned a lot of things and will spill my guts to you as soon as I get my temper back.

Seriously. This sucks.

[UltraWar]

Private Messages can be faked

Vote:Ichigo

[Stig]

Seriously. This sucks.

I think we all agree with you there, but then it would always happen to someone

[Csargo]

Private Messages can be faked

Vote:Ichigo

Are you kidding me? Those two PM's are extremely different writing styles and I suck at writing. But maybe Andres is your buddy I wouldn't doubt it and you wouldn't want to kill your buddy would you?

[Kralizec]

The PM looks real...

Vote: AndrestheCunning

[Orb]

Private Messages can be faked

Vote:Ichigo

Why would he fake it in that detail? And more importantly, why would he fake it at all.

A simple couple of lines could have substituted for that extensive thing. Also, why would he select Andres as a contact and not someone naturally suspicious - like Sasaki (or Lemur ).

Now, your barely explained intervention seems just *slightly* suspicious. In addition, you're in the PM as 'unselectable'. Congrats - Gentlemen, I think we have a secondary target.

Oh - could I humbly ask for the help of a doctor for this turn. Accusing Ultrawar, who is, I believe, a Mafioso, can't be safe. Another family might also want to nail me to place more suspicion on Ultrawar.

[AggonyDuck]

The Andres PM looks legitimate enough for me. Not gonna bother with further explanations.

Vote:AndresTheCunning

[JimBob]

Also anyone who got the townie role knows that that is exactly what Seamus sent to us.

Like I need to think about this one.
Vote: Andres

Me smells newbs in the mafia.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I thought I was dead


Vote:AndresTheCunning

Looks like a careless attempt at recruiting wise guys to me.


Interesting choice of targets. Presumably they are going after those they feel would be most dangerous as mafia, knowing that if they are town they will continue to work for the town. Or else they are just new. I think it's the former though.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

The PM looks reasonable enough, so my vote will be for Andres until he defends himself. I have to admit though, I wouldn't start a PM with 'I am Mafia' if I was trying to recruit, so I am a little dubious. Still, we have enough players to soak up a few innocent losses, so I Vote: Andres. I'll probably be voting for Ichigo in the next round, just in case.

I must admit, I'm curious about the kills. Kudos to the Doctor/townie team that protected Sasaki, as he was an extremely obvious target. However, Prole I'm not so sure about. Either a doctor/townie team got very lucky, or the kill attempt was by someone other than the mafia, and failed due to lack of manpower.

[HughTower]

There is no AndrestheCunning playing. Check the sodding participant list - the Don sent the message via him, as Ichigo thought.

I suspect he or she is sitting there, rolling with laughter right about now at this.

[Csargo]

The PM looks reasonable enough, so my vote will be for Andres until he defends himself. I have to admit though, I wouldn't start a PM with 'I am Mafia' if I was trying to recruit, so I am a little dubious. Still, we have enough players to soak up a few innocent losses, so I Vote: Andres. I'll probably be voting for Ichigo in the next round, just in case.

I must admit, I'm curious about the kills. Kudos to the Doctor/townie team that protected Sasaki, as he was an extremely obvious target. However, Prole I'm not so sure about. Either a doctor/townie team got very lucky, or the kill attempt was by someone other than the mafia, and failed due to lack of manpower.

No need to vote me I'm commiting seppuku. Unless Seamus has a sick sense of humor and doesn't let me kill myself.

[GeneralHankerchief]

What I've learned

Since I am dead, and so early on, I have little interest in who wins and will now proceed to give you guys almost everything I know.

First of all, I confirm Ichigo's PM. My friend sent it to me in a slightly different form, where I was a target and not a "person not to tell." Oops. So yeah, find out who faked being Andres.

I was a doctor in this game. I chose to protect a newbie this first round (can't remember who, and don't really care) so that they could have the experience of living through a Mafia game.

I told the following people this role: Kagemusha and Pannonian. I believe Kage may have told some others such as Caius Flaminius. Kagemusha claims the role of wiseguy. Pannonian claims townie.

Kage approached me in the chat about forming a townie kill group. The four of us were myself, him, Caius, and Sigurd. Our first target was to be Sasaki, but Kage called it off for the first night to wait and see what would happen.

I have a friend who has given me lots of information. Including the townie PM that Seamus sent out, now posted here for all to see (in case you missed it):

Your Role: Townie

Your basic mode for success is to vote to lynch Mafiosi, eventually removing the mafia threat from Fatlington and creating a town win.

Role Changing:

At your discretion, however, this role can change. This will take time, effort, and coordination with other townies. If you:

Combine with 3 other townies you can attempt to kill one target per night (after two successful kills, you will become a “Wise Guy” and can progress from there).

Combine with 2 other townies you can attempt to protect one target per night (after two successful protections, one of you may become a “Doctor “ and can progress from there).

Creating these combinations is up to you however, and you will have to work out your own deals/contracts/arrangements for forming such a combo with the other players.

PM’s:

Each night you are still alive, PM me with instructions for your actions that night. These may be:

“Get some sleep” “Protect so-and-so in combination with player 1, player 2…” or “kill so-and-so in combination with player 1, player 2…”

Warning: if the requisite number of townies is NOT available, the protection/kill effort will almost certainly fail. If a townie attempts a kill/protection solo, the effort will certainly fail, and there will be at least one chance in three that the townie will perish in the attempt.

Investigations:

It is most probable that, if investigated by a Detective or by a Made Gangster, you will be discovered as “innocent.” Remember, however, that a significant minority (20%) of townspeople will register as “unclear” rather than innocent if investigated by a Made and as “criminal” (5-10%) if investigated by a detective. You will only register as “guilty” if you have participated in a killing.

Getting Recruited:

What if a Mafioso seeks to recruit you? You can respond as you wish to such an offer. However, if they believe you to be a Wise Guy and use you as part of a kill team, that team will very likely fail unless you are an “extra” and they already have sufficient killers on the team.

In addition, this friend has supplied me with the names of a few mafiosi, however, I don't know their families or positions.

Reenk Roink
Redleg
Beirut
Stig

Have fun!

[HughTower]

Andresthecunning is not playing this game, therefore he can not be lynched, and is not mafia. Stop voting for him now.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

There is no AndrestheCunning playing. Check the sodding participant list - the Don sent the message via him, as Ichigo thought.

I suspect he or she is sitting there, rolling with laughter right about now at this.

unvote

If I didn't know Ichigo was innocent I'd vote him. Hmm.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Wha?! No Andres?

Duped!

Unvote: Andres.

Now I'm just confused. Who playing is mates with Andres, and might get him to send out PMs for them?

[Sigurd]

unvote: AndresTheCunning aka AndresTheCunningStill

[Orb]

There is no AndrestheCunning playing. Check the sodding participant list - the Don sent the message via him, as Ichigo thought.

I suspect he or she is sitting there, rolling with laughter right about now at this.

I no longer want to arrest this godfather, he's given me a good ten minutes of laughing at myself and that is priceless

Regardless, I'm suspicious about how fast (and how) Ultrawar reacted.

I think he's an inept detective or FBI agent, which would explain the reaction properly.

Unvote:Andres the Cunning
Vote: The Stranger

He's got pretty good ties with Andres.

[Csargo]

I don't know what's going on unless Seamus got some people to send PMs so the mafioso's wouldn't reveal themselves. So I couldn't pull a stunt like I just did.

[AggonyDuck]

Well I'm gonna trust GH's list here and vote for Reenk.

Unvote:AndrestheCunning
Vote: Reenk Roink

[Pannonian]

Whoops. That was embarrassing. I'll pick a name from GH's list, and I'll go for Reenk Roink as an experienced player who would have the nous to disguise himself via a non-participant.

Unvote: Andres
Vote: Reenk Roink

[HughTower]

Read Ichigo's post 286 again, with the knowledge that Andres is not a player.
Now, the person who sent must most likely be vaguely experienced to pull that trick; or have a few friends on the forum through longevity; or even have set up another new account specifically for this purpose. Can someone check how long Andres has been around? Is that possible?

My view is that Ichigo is truthful & truly wants to opt out of the game.

Personally, I still want to know why Proletariat & Sasaki were saved - and by who?

[Csargo]

unvote

If I didn't know Ichigo was innocent I'd vote him. Hmm.

Do you really think I'de **** up that bad and write in someone's name that wasn't even on the list. This is messed up.

[Csargo]

Read Ichigo's post 286 again, with the knowledge that Andres is not a player.
Now, the person who sent must most likely be vaguely experienced to pull that trick; or have a few friends on the forum through longevity; or even have set up another new account specifically for this purpose. Can someone check how long Andres has been around? Is that possible?

My view is that Ichigo is truthful & truly wants to opt out of the game.

Personally, I still want to know why Proletariat & Sasaki were saved - and by who?

Andres isn't new. He's also Dutch if that helps any.

[Don Corleone]

As mentioned, our Godfather (or whomever posed as Andres) has a great sense of humor. This was classic... straight to the Mafia games sticky, I hope (Sasaki....)

Of the 4 known mafia GH listed, I'd have to say this sounds the most like Beirut (who must be loving his role as Director right now).

Vote: Beirut

P.S. With his moderator powers, I'm sure he knows how to forge a PM.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Kage approached me in the chat about forming a townie kill group. The four of us were myself, him, Caius, and Sigurd. Our first target was to be Sasaki, but Kage called it off for the first night to wait and see what would happen.

Well isn't that just


GH's list is interesting, but recall that in this game being killed doesn't prove you are innocent. We'll know in a round (or 2?) what his role was. Meanwhile, I expect those four will be taken out by mafia families eager to gain an advantage.

So I'll

Vote:Pannonian

I'd expect him to know better than to trust a list like that at face value and go for the names. Remember if GH was mafia he would have listed 4 innocents.