How to always win a 4v4 using ALL or LATE era.

**Jochi Khan** · 01-12-2007, 17:57

Originally Posted by ElmarkOFear

Very true Orda. And with the current MP community, there is a perceptible unwillingness to address these issues. When the clan community was strong during STW and MTW, we policed oursleves and everyone wanted fair play and proper game ettiquette. It appears that is no longer the case, since there aren't many who are willing to set a good example for others to follow. Winning seems to be the thing most important now, rather than just playing and socializing with friends and playing fairly (or even handicapping yourself) to make the games more interesting.

It would be nice to think that members reading the above quote would see what is really missing from the present Total War game.

**RtkBedivere** · 01-12-2007, 18:48

pigs?

**Fenix7** · 01-12-2007, 19:08

Originally Posted by ElmarkOFear
Very true Orda. And with the current MP community, there is a perceptible unwillingness to address these issues. When the clan community was strong during STW and MTW, we policed oursleves and everyone wanted fair play and proper game ettiquette. It appears that is no longer the case, since there aren't many who are willing to set a good example for others to follow. Winning seems to be the thing most important now, rather than just playing and socializing with friends and playing fairly (or even handicapping yourself) to make the games more interesting.

It would be nice to think that members reading the above quote would see what is really missing from the present Total War game.

Agreed.

**FactionHeir** · 01-12-2007, 19:35

While I haven't played multi, from singleplayer, bows/xbows are better than muskets when pitted against each other, so why not spam longbowmen, crossbowmen against that "big4" army? add to that a lot of knight units with the formed charge ability and you are good to go.
You can also go heavy on horse archers which are mobile and with cantabrian circle will not fear muskets much.

Another thing with muskets is that they need to reform majorly to always be perpendicular to their target. Have a mobile target run around and take them out while they keep reforming ;)

I'd suggest one teammate being England with trebuchets (very long range and good accuracy + devastating agaisnt troops) and longbows (stakes, long range, blocks knights), one as moors with their Über-peasant crossbowmen and camel gunners (huge range) as well as fast javelin cav (really devastating if used correctly), scots (for great pikes which can hold their ground in melee too), and poland (some of the best knights and decent horse archers)

**Monarch** · 01-13-2007, 00:10

one as moors with their Über-peasant crossbowmen and camel gunners (huge range) as well as fast javelin cav (really devastating if used correctly), scots (for great pikes which can hold their ground in melee too), and poland (some of the best knights and decent horse archers)[/QUOTE]

While I haven't played multi, from singleplayer, bows/xbows are better than muskets when pitted against each other

Nope they're not. Guess again

You can also go heavy on horse archers which are mobile and with cantabrian circle will not fear muskets much.

HAs in canta do extremely little damage. Its not quite normal for people to not even use it.

Another thing with muskets is that they need to reform majorly to always be perpendicular to their target. Have a mobile target run around and take them out while they keep reforming ;)

Erm ye...well you do realise we're not talknig about all musket armies lol. A half decent player will protect his muskets with some cavalry. So the muskets can concentrate on firing dead ahead.

I'd suggest one teammate being England with trebuchets (very long range and good accuracy + devastating agaisnt troops)

Another interesting feature of trebuchets is they're banned in almost every battle

I don't want to go into it because it'll just open up a art debate topic. But they're banned for a reason.

one as moors with their Über-peasant crossbowmen

Do this in high era by all means. But the peasants wouldnt get 5 volleys off in a shoot out vs muskets before being dead.

Sorry for maybe coming off a little too harsh there. But I think this just highlights how different mp and sp are. I would encourage you to get into multiplayer, its great fun.

**Zeph** · 01-13-2007, 19:41

All and late era aren't played for a reason. Just use high and you have no worrys.

**ElmarkOFear** · 01-14-2007, 08:43

You can always just play in high era, but that limits the amount of units you can play with, by 1/3. :) I like the spear/pike units of the late era, since they can actually stand up to cav, unlike most units in the early and high eras.

Lavos: MTW became unfriendly to new players later on in its life-cycle. At the beginning there were many clans and many ronin players who would take the time to train new players who were interested in getting better. It is a shame you missed those people and clans who used to take the time to help out.