Abandoning Crusades

[Moah]

What are the consequences for abandoning a crusade, especially for family members?

Hypothetically *cough* speaking if you'd thought you were being clever joining a crusade on the last possible turn, having checked the venetians were about to take said city anyway, for all the bonuses and then..they didn't. And now there's a 20 unit Egyptian army in it. And you're in Brittany. And they're in Antioch. And you have no navy capable of fighting past pirates.

So will..er would... everybody desert/gain bad traits/get excommunicated, ESPECIALLY Family Members if I...I mean they...abandon the cause? Relations with the Pope are presently outstanding thanks to 200fl/turn and alliance.

All hypothetically speaking. Of course.

[Si GeeNa]

This may be off-topic.

But I was playing as Egypt and 3 factions (Hungary, Spain and Milan) launched crusades against me.

My spy at Constantinople sighted all 3 stacks crossing into Asia Minor. Strangely, my armies only encountered Spain and Hungary. Milan's crusade stack went walkabout and when my spy at Constantinople sighted the Milan stack again, it had dissolved into the general only.

I have no idea what happened.

Did the Milan crusade get defeated by my Turkish allies?

Or did Milan get ex-comm and did this directly result in the failure of their crusade.

[Snoil The Mighty]

Im sure you'd-er they- take some piety hits but his holiness the Bishop of Rome is very fond of florins so your faction rating can always be maintained. Or Their faction rating of course in this case

[FactionHeir]

You have 2 turns from the time you join the crusade for it to be victorious or your units disband.
Generals do not disband, only units do and not all of them but all over time

[Moah]

So If Milan are excommed I could just destroy them and soak the desertions and I don't have to worry about losing generals?

[Moah]

*cough* I mean they...

[pevergreen]

If your family members deserte the crusdae, no bad stuff happens, but if they stay in the Crusade stack, once you press end turn, any unit in that stack will become a crusade unit. Ships/units/generals will all turn to crusading. But if your genereal leave the crusade nothing bad happens. Nice way to take over some islands there, take an extra general, hire merc, island = yours.

[Matty]

You have 2 turns from the time you join the crusade for it to be victorious or your units disband.
Generals do not disband, only units do and not all of them but all over time

Eek, 2 turns? How are you supposed to get a crusade from Europe to the Holy Lands even mostly intact at this rate? Or do you march the army all the way there, join the crusade, buff up with mercs and immediately attack?

[FactionHeir]

I meant for units you let join the crusade in your home land for pure XP and florin gain and not moving of course ;)

[cfc_kev]

there are no "bad crusader" traits or anything like that. if your general has any of the "crusader history" traits then the chances are he will lose them when he abandones the crusade but nothing else will happen to him.
nor will you get excommunicated.
any soldiers hired as crusaders will eventually desert if they're not moving towards the target.

[pevergreen]

And if you move away, they will threaten (with a nifty pop up) that if you dont get your arse moving, they will all desert.