Firefox 2.0 the verdict so far...

[caravel]

I was wondering how people are finding this so far. As for me I've uninstalled and gone back to 1.5.0.8 in Windows XP and 98SE and 1.5.0.7 in Linux. (My distro, Kubuntu, is not yet up to 1.5.0.8). Basically it crashes, on all platforms, ALOT. I was posting here and it crashed, I was trying to download the XL Mod for MTW and it crashed. It's crashed doing other things as well. Mostly in XP, but also in Win98SE and sometimes in Linux. I've never seen so much of the quality feedback agent!

[satchef1]

Guess you must have got a dodgy copy, not had 1 crash in 2.0 yet and only had Firefox crash on me twice the whole time ive been using it. Your the only person ive heard complain about 2.0

I like the new look and feel of 2.0, cant get the spell checker to work though :(

[naut]

I like the new look and feel of 2.0

Agree with you there, very nice indeed.

cant get the spell checker to work though :(

Spell checker on he .Org or in general. Because when I do a quick reply I have to right click in the box and select "Spell check this field" for it to work.

[LeftEyeNine]

A poll without a choice for Maxthon... I hereby declare this discussion invalid and unproductive.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

FF2 crashes extremely infrequently for me - maybe three times since its release and I've used it constantly.

Those three times it crashed, I just restored it using the handy-dandy "restore to before crash" feature.

Essentially FF2 is like the opposite of full scale chemical warfare - that is to say, quite good.

[DukeofSerbia]

Work perfect. I use both Firefox 2.0 and Opera 9.01 from where I go in the internet.

[Husar]

That Maxthon browser looks to me like Internet Explorer with a little bit of Opera thrown in.

[DukeofSerbia]

totalwar.com don't work with Firefox 2.0.

[LeftEyeNine]

That Maxthon browser looks to me like Internet Explorer with a little bit of Opera thrown in.

So ?

[Husar]

So ?

So it is likely to be better than IE but not as good as Opera.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

totalwar.com works fine on this

It runs just as better as Normal Mozillia. Most of my info transfer over,pretty good and fast too..

[caravel]

@Husar: Maxthon is an IE based theme/extension/browser/thingy. Basically it's a load of old rubbish.

Firefox 2.0 being a new major version is likely to crash occasionally, moreso than Firefox 1.5.0.8 but personally I'm finding it to be pretty unstable. As to the dodgy copy theory. I find it unlikely that I could download 6 dodgy copies. So far I've installed two at work, crashing, and four 2 at home. Of the two at work, one has crashed regularly, the other has only crashed once. Of those at home, the Linux build seems to be the most reliable, it crashes in windows 98 and also crashes on my other machine under WinXP. I also have it on a Laptop running Windows 2000 where it also crashes occasionally. Needs patching.

-Edit: If totalwar.com isn't working, Flashplayer is likely to be your problem. I can't access totalwar.com from Linux due to Flashplayer not being as up to date for that OS.

[LeftEyeNine]

@Husar: Maxthon is an IE based theme/extension/browser/thingy. Basically it's a load of old rubbish.

Look who's talkin', look who's talkin' ?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Is there any real reason to update from 1.508? I heard something about people losing their bookmarks...

[caravel]

I've heard of that as well, though I haven't had that problem. Temporary files and cookies have also been incompatible in the past (easily solved by clearing the lot out before updating). 1.5 will be supported until 24 April 2007. So there's time to see how stable v2.0 gets. Bookmarks are not really much of a issue though, as you can export them first then re-import them once you've upgraded, which should avoid the problem/bug.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

2.0 doesn't crash, has a nifty spellchecker, an 'x' for closing tabs, and loads faster. Wheee!

[Geezer57]

Using Firefox 2.0 on five different machines without problems. And the Medieval forums (here and there) have been fine for me.

[caravel]

**Slaughters chicken, performs the ritual, proclaims the magic word aloud, thread ressurected.**

This the crash error that I get from Firefox on Win98SE. It has continued from 2.0 to 2.0.0.1. I also get a few crashes at home on 98SE and on WinXP though not so often. It occurs when firefox is loading a page, when several windows are open at once. In this case it was only the .org and ebay uk that I had open.

FIREFOX caused an invalid page fault in
module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800d16a.
Registers:
EAX=00ea0008 CS=0167 EIP=7800d16a EFLGS=00010202
EBX=00ea0138 SS=016f ESP=00d8e680 EBP=00d8e69c
ECX=00ea3fc8 DS=016f ESI=03e7f02c FS=2de7
EDX=0000002d ES=016f EDI=0000001f GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 5c d1 04 8d 0c d1 89 5e 04 89 4e 08 89 71 04 
Stack dump:
00000000 00000396 03e7f030 00ea3fc8 00000001 00000021 000002e0 00d8e6fc 78011b77 00ea0138 03e7f30c 03e80c60 03e7f030 000002e0 00000000 00000061

MSVCRT is the MS Visual C Runtime library. I discovered that the Java runtime environment has an older version of this file in it's bin folder, so I replaced this with the one from windows\system. Now I'll have to see how it goes.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Hi guys,
I must admit that I have only had one crash with firefox and that was when I tried to access vBRadio on this site. However, I have had several crashes that could be related to Firefox. For example when I come out of Hibernate, if Firefox is open, my mouse pointer refuses to move. Other than that, though, I have had an extremely pleasurable browsing experience with the wonderful firefox and all it's add ons such as ad-block and spell checker. As a certain userbar said: Bring back the fun to the web, get firefox! Cheers.

[Sigurd]

I have Firefox 2.0 but don't use it...
I really like the new IE7. It hardly crashes and is faster than FF (to my eye). Hence it is my everyday browser.
I have Opera too but only use these non microsoft browsers for testing purposes.

But then again... I am a Microsoft certified partner and must say that genuine software works. (not insinuating anything here)

[Spino]

I have Firefox 2.0 and I prefer it to 1.5. No stability problems so far.

Oh, one word of wisdom, all Firefox users should download the latest version of Java ( http://www.java.com ). My previous relationship with Firefox was one of love/hate as certain Java and Flash animation heavy sites would make Firefox choke and run like crap, a stark contrast to IE which ran those same sites like a champ. On a whim I installed the latest version of Java and pow, Firefox runs much more smoothly now.

[drone]

-Edit: If totalwar.com isn't working, Flashplayer is likely to be your problem. I can't access totalwar.com from Linux due to Flashplayer not being as up to date for that OS.

Fresh off the Slashdot page today:

http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2...linux_x86.html

Enjoy!

[caravel]

Fresh off the Slashdot page today:

http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2...linux_x86.html

Enjoy!

Great! An I don't have Linux installed on any machine at the moment. I'm lacking HDD space for total war games, so it had to come off. I'm using an old HDD at the moment (27.3GB) with Win98SE, as my old one died some time ago. I've just never got around to getting a new one.

Again I'm having the same crash after updating Java, though only on this machine. The crash on my machine at home was a different one and hasn't reappeared since updating Firefox to 2.0.0.1. I think this machine is a bit dodgy. It's an old Dell I use at work for testing printers with Win98SE on it.

FIREFOX caused an invalid page fault in
module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800d4f1.
Registers:
EAX=03b3f1d0 CS=0167 EIP=7800d4f1 EFLGS=00010286
EBX=03b1030c SS=016f ESP=00d887a8 EBP=00d887c8
ECX=03b43394 DS=016f ESI=1fffffff FS=43af
EDX=00000000 ES=016f EDI=00000037 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 0a 2b 4d f0 8b f1 89 4d f8 c1 fe 04 4e 83 fe 
Stack dump:
00000038 00000038 03269db8 8192e84c 00000040 03b43394 ffffffff 00000020 00d887fc 7800cc7f 03b1030c 00000038 021309d0 03269db8 016ae630 00421033

I'm going to try a firefox reninstall, and if that fails I'll use Opera for a while and see if that crashes.

[DukeofSerbia]

After month of usage -

1) Firefox 2.0 without plug-ins is not good.
2) Must-have plug-ins slow down Firefox when it loads.
3) With plug-ins really great!

[sapi]

DukeofSerbia, i've noticed no slowdown and i'm running over a dozen plugins - if you're getting significant slowdowns you may have other issues...

[caravel]

Plugins increase load time, though not hugely. Which plugins have you installed? I have only, adblock, flashblock, dictionary and fasterfox installed.

[DukeofSerbia]

Plugins increase load time, though not hugely. Which plugins have you installed? I have only, adblock, flashblock, dictionary and fasterfox installed.

Many. I will check and write them.

DukeofSerbia, i've noticed no slowdown and i'm running over a dozen plugins - if you're getting significant slowdowns you may have other issues...

I mean it is needed ~6-8 sec to load it. Slow but after that works excellent. My PC came from upgrade two weeks ago and works faster than ever, but my friend installed a lot of various plug-ins.

[DukeofSerbia]

This is my installed Firefox 2.0. It has 52 enabled extensions, 2 installed themes and 11 installed plug-ins.

Extensions are:

• Active Stop Button 1.2
• Adblock Plus 0.7.2.2
• All-in-One Sidebar 0.7.1
• Bookmark Duplicate Detector 0.6.2
• Bookmarks LinkChecker 0.6.8.3
• Button Pack 0.8.5.5
• Calculator 1.1.4
• Clone Window 0.2.8
• Closy 1.4.0
• Colorful Tabs 1.7
• Cookie Button in the status bar 0.8.9
• Copy All Urls 0.7.1
• Ctrl Tab Preview 0.2.1
• CuteMenus - Crystal SVG 1.8
• dotCOMplete 1.4.2
• Download Manager Tweak 0.7.2
• Download Sort 2.5.7
• Download Statusbar 0.9.4.5
• Duplicate Tab 0.8.1
• Enhanced Bookmark Search 0.1.4.04.1
• Enhanced History Manager 0.5.8.05.1
• Exch 1.2.1
• Fasterfox 2.0.0
• Firefox Extension Backup Extension (FEBE) 4.0
• FireFTP 0.94.6
• FlashGot 0.5.97.01
• Forecastfox 0.9.3.1
• Grab and Drag 1.6.1
• Greasemonkey 0.6.6.20061017.0
• IE Tab 1.2.0.20061113
• Image Zoom 0.2.7
• infoRSS 1.1.1
• Menu Editor 1.2.3
• MinimizeToTray 0.0.1.2006102615+
• Mouse Gestures 1.5.2
• MR Tech Local Install 5.3.2.1
• Platypus 0.64
• QuickNote 0.6.0.3
• Right Encoding 0.2.2
• Screen grab! 0.8
• SessionSaver .2 0.2.1.031
• Show Image 0.4.2
• ShowIP 0.8.05
• Super DragAndGo 0.2.6
• SwiftTabs 0.3.4
• Tab Clicking Options 0.6.8
• Tab X 2.0
• Tabbrowser Preferences 1.3.1.1
• TabScroller 0.6.3
• Talkback 2.0
• Undo Closed Tabs Button 2.0
• Web Developer 1.0.2

Themes are:

• Firefox (default)
• macfoxII 2.0.8

Plug-ins are:

• Java(TM) 2 Platform Standard Edition 5.0 Update 8
• Microsoft Office 2003
• Microsoft® DRM
• Mozilla Default Plug-in
• PCMan's IE Tab Plug-in for Mozilla/Firefox
• QuickTime Plug-in 7.1.3
• RealPlayer Version Plugin
• RealPlayer(tm) G2 LiveConnect-Enabled Plug-In (32-bit)
• Shockwave Flash
• Shockwave for Director
• Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library


Screenshot of extensions:

[caravel]

A lot of extensions and plug ins, I'm not surprised it's chugging a bit.

[DukeofSerbia]

Just look a bit better - I have even advanced Calculator installed!