what the hardest faction to be in EB

**king hannibal** · 01-30-2007, 17:14

although it fun winning all the time I need a challage or as much as the AI allows

so I was wondering as the only faction I've been is carthage because of the cool early skins (not to say the rest arn't as good) but they are how I Iamgine them to be

so what the hardest faction?

thanks

**Orb** · 01-30-2007, 17:18

Hayasdan is pretty difficult to start with, but I think they get easier later on (horse archer, cataphract and Galatian merc armies made it easier, still not neccessarily a pushover) (I last played them for 0.74 and alledgedly in 0.8 Seleukeia is much more aggressive).

Also, the Gauls similarly have difficult starts, and probably a weaker unit roster (although the Gaesatae are just...)

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 01-30-2007, 17:22

Pontos is not easy. They have to recruit a lot of mercs and you have to be paying attention to diplomacy more than usual.

**Moros** · 01-30-2007, 17:32

I found my hayadsan campaign easier than my gaul campaigns. Bloody triarii, with hayasdan you conter heavy phalanxes with missiles. The gauls have it harder in that aspect I think. And if you have a long campaign, sometimes Karthadashtim comes conquering from out spain with verry elite full stacks. (my advice if you can get them off spain, do it.

**Elminster12** · 01-30-2007, 17:32

I can second Pontos. Of course, some of it has to do with the recruitment, but even so, you don't really have all that much room to expand, and the Seleukids are ALOT friskier on 0.8...and then there're the Ptolies and the Maks as possible problems. And the Hayasdan with their incredibly irritating HAs...and the Sauromate across the Pontos Euxinus...

**Karo** · 01-30-2007, 19:47

Play as Hayasdan you wan a real challenge
But I have another question where can you train cataphract in 0.8?
Can somebody help me

**Fondor_Yards** · 01-30-2007, 23:31

Saka is pretty hard. Super poor cities, only unit worth their price have a high price *nolbes are very nice but costly, cataphracts cost about the same but have half the men*, and the Blue Monster of Baktria to the south, the parthians with their better cavalry to the south, and the equally shitty/strong *heh depending on your view* Sarmations to the west.

**Boyar Son** · 01-30-2007, 23:36

No one think Rome is hard? because it's supposed to, the entire Roman world had to face difficult wars, setbacks, and costly (but deserved) glory.

Rome starts as a small nation, surrounded by enemies, can it get any harder?

**Geoffrey S** · 01-31-2007, 00:24

Rome starts with a number of defendable provinces and a very robust economy, making them relatively easy.

**skuzzy** · 01-31-2007, 00:28

Pontos is damn hard from the start and even in prolonged play doesn't get all that much easier for a good while. It's hard sitting next to an already established empire that turns on you quicker than a superstar ninja.

**Zim** · 01-31-2007, 01:36

Well, I haven't played every faction, but I have managed to lose both a Casse and a KH game, so i'd say them.

My Averni game, on the other hand, was tough at first and easier once I got rid of the Aedui. My Roma game seems fairly easy right now, but I'm mostly playing it to have my revenge on Macedonia for kicking my butt when I played the Greeks.