The Ipod

[Beirut]

*coughs*
Ahem.

Ouch! Stop that.

* I have a 30GB one, which is 2/3 full, and I'm unhappy with what music I have on it.

Then listen to better music.

3. 8 GB is really, really, not that much. A regular album, MP3 format ripped from an audio cd at 320kbps is gonna be anywhere between 100MB and 200MB.

This is true. It would be neat to have one little MP3 player the size of a lighter with my entire collection of Floyd on it. I might buy one just for that.

Now, did I manage to convince you of the difficulties I'm facing ? Is that a tear in the corner of your eye ?

You managed to convince me that if you hit me with that hammer again I'm going to upload 20 GB of Milli Vanilli onto your MP3 player and lock you in the Backroom for a month. We'll see who has the tear in the corner of their eye then, eh?

[Andres]

I'm going to upload 20 GB of Milli Vanilli onto your MP3 player and lock you in the Backroom for a month.

[edyzmedieval]

I want to buy an 80GB iPod, but it's damned expensive. 400 euros seems horribly expensive for what it offers, but I want to buy it.

Worth the money? I'll use every feature is has, and I know every dime on it.

[Stig]

I've got a Creative Zen Micro, 6gb, works good, but if you want something while jogging, cycling etc get a 512mb one for 20 euro's ... sound doesn't matter that much.

[Yawning Angel]

People get all wound up about the evil Microsoft monopolising the computer world but are quite happy to buy Ipod's. Apple are at least as bad if not worse with their insistence that you purchase from Itunes and their unhealthy market share. Talk about double standards . .

Anyway I like to own CD's as well so don't end up buying online mp3's (also gets you out of worrying about how many times you can copy stuff and other digital rights nonsence). I bought a 20GB (hard disc) Sony before Christmas and have been really happy with it. Uploaded about 60 albums so far and only used about 4 GB. Not much chance of running out of space.

Don't use it when running, but i've never had it skip. For exercise I'd probably go with a 2-4GB solid-state version. (I tend to cycle and prefer to hear cars coming behind me than listen to music).

[Lemur]

People get all wound up about the evil Microsoft monopolising the computer world but are quite happy to buy Ipod's. Apple are at least as bad if not worse with their insistence that you purchase from Itunes and their unhealthy market share.

Sorry, I missed the part where Apple forces you to purchase from iTunes. Are you suggesting that you can't rip from CDs, or load up an iPod with MP3s from wherever?

iPods and iTunes are fun accessories, and I really don't need them for my day to day work. So you'll have to forgive me if I'm less worried about the state of the iPod than I am about Windows Vista. No doubt Apple would behave just as badly, if not worse, than Microsoft if it owned 90% of the operating system market. But they don't, so they can't.

[edit]

Xiahou, there's Ogg Drop for OS X, which allows playback of OV files. Not sure about what's available for WinXP, but a small application of Google-fu should find you something.

[Xiahou]

Xiahou, there's Ogg Drop for OS X, which allows playback of OV files. Not sure about what's available for WinXP, but a small application of Google-fu should find you something.

On my PC I just use Winamp with an ogg codec... my point, however, was that the flash-based iPods don't support ogg- which is why they weren't on the list of ogg supported players.

[Ja'chyra]

I can recommend the Creative MP3's as well. I had the Zen touch 20Gb and just upgraded to the Vision M 30Gb, but for jogging or the gym a 512 or 1 Gb MP3 would be enough.

I like to have my whole music collection on it as it saves me changing stuff about, and the Zen Vision is barely bigger than my mobile so it's not a hassle carrying it about.

And yes B, there is lots of bad music on it but I'm a hoarder. :P

[Blodrast]

Ouch! Stop that.

Hmm, is that what that hammer means ? Heh. I've always seen it as the little guy pounding the gavel to claim attention, in a judge-like manner. It never occurred to me it might mean hitting your interlocutor, but it's an interesting suggestion.

Then listen to better music.

Touche, but you know very well what I mean, even if I may have expressed it poorly. What I meant, as I explained in my previous post, is that I got bored of the music I have on it, and I want to recycle it, i.e. to replace it with other music from my music colletion. Not because it's bad, but because I get bored of listening to the same thing for too long.

You managed to convince me that if you hit me with that hammer again I'm going to upload 20 GB of Milli Vanilli onto your MP3 player and lock you in the Backroom for a month. We'll see who has the tear in the corner of their eye then, eh?

Lol, did they even make that much music ? *shudders*

[Beirut]

Lol, did they even make that much music ? *shudders*

Nope. You just get the same song. Over and over and over and...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwrL9MV6jSk

iSuffer.

[The Foolish Horseman]

beirut, ur soooo mean!!!!!



plus btw more of a punishment is uploading 20GB of spice girls and boyzone

shudder!!!

plus lock em in the ente=rance hall with the n00bs repeatedly asking.

Cane we be a member yet? Why cant i post here?

lol

[Beirut]

So I would need at least a 4GB player to hold my 25+ albums of Floyd?

And 4GB isn't even 4GB, I might need more? I hear there's an 8GB player out there. Sounds like a mighty fine idea.

Neat, really. An entire collection, forty years of music, all tucked away in something the size of a lighter. Cool!

[Blodrast]

I think it really depends, Beirut - mostly on what bitrate those MP3's are encoded at.
Just by eyeballing some samples (and I'm not even sure the same ripper, with the same parameters, was used to create all of them), 320kbps is gonna be more than double (in size) compared to 128kbps.
If you have variable rate MP3's (VBR), which aren't that uncommon, it gets even more complicated. So it's hard to estimate how much space it would take beforehand.

[naut]

So I would need at least a 4GB player to hold my 25+ albums of Floyd?

EDIT: (Have have 1GB of Floyd, 8 albums)