Battle Speeches. Your Conclusions

[HoreTore]

Feck - my favourite trait!

[pike master]

"dear and loyal soldiers you will all die today and somone else will have your women,children and lands. But do not let this discourage you, and if you turn and run i will not hold it against you since i will probably be the first to run."

[gingergenius]

some of them are quite witty.

[Moah]

Although in general they aren't as realistic and passionate as they could be, my biggest beef with them is the immense lack of balance. I don't think I've ever heard a battle speech when playing as the Turks, and many factions get simple one-liners. The first 5 factions and Scotland get some decent ones, but that's about it.

I think I had 1 or 2 as turks. Both single lines. But then none for like, 10 battles, before I gave up waiting again. I was beginning to think I'd imagined the ones I did get....Maybe I did....

[Kaidonni]

I had a lengthy speech off of Count Bernardo, the Milanese faction heir, who had 7 command...

Might be partly to do with the command stars of the general? Or not?

[Captain Fishpants]

As the French:



Tee hee!

I was quite naughty from time to time! There are ruder speeches in the system, btw.

And FYI, the length of the speech is related to the unit count for the battle: the more troops present, the more remarks your general will make concerning the coming battle. This made the actual process of writing everything quite difficult, because there was no single set template for the remark elements. I had to make allowance for the fact that a particular speech element might not always be in the same place and have predictable elements before and after it.

[Elmar Bijlsma]

Hail to thee, noble Captain Fishpants.
Some of them are marvelously naughty, well done!

One thing though, in future could speeches be made to play during the setup phase? Quicker getting to a battle without missing the speech.

[Caliburn]

Never even realised this game had retained the speeches... Be it because they don't work for me, or more probably I've always been so hasty to "begin deployment" that the hero never had the chance to talk.

[FactionHeir]

And FYI, the length of the speech is related to the unit count for the battle: the more troops present, the more remarks your general will make concerning the coming battle. This made the actual process of writing everything quite difficult, because there was no single set template for the remark elements. I had to make allowance for the fact that a particular speech element might not always be in the same place and have predictable elements before and after it.

Well then you surely want to tell me why my Danish general says a one liner even when 2 stacks of 20 are battling each other while my English general will give 4-5 lines of text when only a total of 10 units are on the field?

[CeltiberoMordred]

...And why in the spanish version of M2TW, french are shy and haven't any speeches nor subtitles at all...

[econ21]

Well then you surely want to tell me why my Danish general says a one liner even when 2 stacks of 20 are battling each other while my English general will give 4-5 lines of text when only a total of 10 units are on the field?

The 5 starter factions have more lines. I think Captain Fishpants was just saying that how long they go on for depends on how many men are in battle.

Both things were also true of RTW, AFAIK.

[pike master]

" men hold fast until the enemy appears over that ridge. then run for your lives."

[FactionHeir]

Not really sapi, I remember all factions in RTW having a host of battle speeches, not just the romans.

[Captain Fishpants]

Hail to thee, noble Captain Fishpants.
Some of them are marvelously naughty, well done!

One thing though, in future could speeches be made to play during the setup phase? Quicker getting to a battle without missing the speech.

That was a decision taken in Oz. No idea why, nor whether it's going to be changed in the next patch. Sorry. Like mostly-beloved children everywhere, they don't write and don't phone their parents now that they're off doing stuff for themselves... sniff.

Well then you surely want to tell me why my Danish general says a one liner even when 2 stacks of 20 are battling each other while my English general will give 4-5 lines of text when only a total of 10 units are on the field?

I think the "minor factions" all default to one-liner remarks, although the plan was (and speeches were written) for more speech chunks than were recorded.

...And why in the spanish version of M2TW, french are shy and haven't any speeches nor subtitles at all...

Now that sounds like a translation-not-being-done problem. Aaargh!

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

The 5 starter factions have more lines

Sadly that was also true of Rome: Total War. The three great Roman factions always seemed to say much more about the faction(s) they were fighting and the enemy's number compared to the other culture groups such as the Greeks and Barbarians. Also, unfortunately, some groups had "clone" speeches such as the Egyptians, Easterners and Carthaginians which, sadly, removed some variety. Although I do not own M2:TW, I would beleive that, from what I have seen, that the speeches have much more variety. Yet if the variety is of higher quality or not remains for me to see.

[Darkarbiter]

Sadly that was also true of Rome: Total War. The three great Roman factions always seemed to say much more about the faction(s) they were fighting and the enemy's number compared to the other culture groups such as the Greeks and Barbarians. Also, unfortunately, some groups had "clone" speeches such as the Egyptians, Easterners and Carthaginians which, sadly, removed some variety. Although I do not own M2:TW, I would beleive that, from what I have seen, that the speeches have much more variety. Yet if the variety is of higher quality or not remains for me to see.

There is more variety of languages/cultures in M2tw so I would assume so.
Like theres:
English
French
Spanish/Portugal
Eastern European etc
Not many factions share same accents so I assume not same speaches.

[Ciaran]

...And why in the spanish version of M2TW, french are shy and haven't any speeches nor subtitles at all...

In localized (i.e. not English) versions only the faction which matches the localization (the HRE in Germany, for example) gets a full speech, all other factions just get one-liners.

[Microwavegerbil]

I've given up hope for the Turks, I wait and wait, and it feels like they'll have a speech maybe 1 out of every 5 or 6 battles, and it's always one line, maybe two.

[HoreTore]

I think the "minor factions" all default to one-liner remarks, although the plan was (and speeches were written) for more speech chunks than were recorded.

Give us a finger, and we'll demand the arm... It's just so sad that there isn't more speeches for the "other" factions. It was true in Rome with only the romans getting speeches, and it's true in M2TW with only the 5 first factions getting speeches...

I was really, really hoping to have speeches for my turks after I had reconciled with not having speeches for my parthians...

Oh well. It always seems like my favourite factions get the boot somewhere... At least I now have my ottomans again!

[CeltiberoMordred]

In localized (i.e. not English) versions only the faction which matches the localization (the HRE in Germany, for example) gets a full speech, all other factions just get one-liners.

In the spanish version we got full and specific speeches for hre, italians, spanish, english, etc. It's true that when you play another factions just like danish, russians or muslims, speeches are one-liner mostly, but at least they tell something to their troops... But when you play French, their generals and captains are mute No speeches at all.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

i dont think Islamic factions are minor, but where are there speeches?

[HoreTore]

i dont think Islamic factions are minor, but where are there speeches?

Every faction besides England, France, HRE, Spain and Milan are "minor".

The "minor" factions are the ones you have to unlock.

[KHPike]

Minor factions give one liners all the time, although they do at least say something.

Would've been fun to hear the Scots talk like in Braveheart 'They make take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom!' Or Muslims factions blabbering about the 'infidelic pigs'.

Yesterday my English general was muttering stuff about 'Is my wife over there? Have you met her?...If she there with the enemy we're all doomed men! DO YOU WANT A FIGHT?!'

[adembroski]

My favorite speech was from Rome... I took 3 units to take out a single brigand unit, the pre-battle speech was...

"There they are! Get them!"