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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants
    And FYI, the length of the speech is related to the unit count for the battle: the more troops present, the more remarks your general will make concerning the coming battle. This made the actual process of writing everything quite difficult, because there was no single set template for the remark elements. I had to make allowance for the fact that a particular speech element might not always be in the same place and have predictable elements before and after it.

    Well then you surely want to tell me why my Danish general says a one liner even when 2 stacks of 20 are battling each other while my English general will give 4-5 lines of text when only a total of 10 units are on the field?
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    ...And why in the spanish version of M2TW, french are shy and haven't any speeches nor subtitles at all...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Factionheir
    Well then you surely want to tell me why my Danish general says a one liner even when 2 stacks of 20 are battling each other while my English general will give 4-5 lines of text when only a total of 10 units are on the field?
    The 5 starter factions have more lines. I think Captain Fishpants was just saying that how long they go on for depends on how many men are in battle.

    Both things were also true of RTW, AFAIK.

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    " men hold fast until the enemy appears over that ridge. then run for your lives."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmar Bijlsma
    Hail to thee, noble Captain Fishpants.
    Some of them are marvelously naughty, well done!

    One thing though, in future could speeches be made to play during the setup phase? Quicker getting to a battle without missing the speech.
    That was a decision taken in Oz. No idea why, nor whether it's going to be changed in the next patch. Sorry. Like mostly-beloved children everywhere, they don't write and don't phone their parents now that they're off doing stuff for themselves... sniff.

    Quote Originally Posted by FactionHeir
    Well then you surely want to tell me why my Danish general says a one liner even when 2 stacks of 20 are battling each other while my English general will give 4-5 lines of text when only a total of 10 units are on the field?
    I think the "minor factions" all default to one-liner remarks, although the plan was (and speeches were written) for more speech chunks than were recorded.

    Quote Originally Posted by CeltiberoMordred
    ...And why in the spanish version of M2TW, french are shy and haven't any speeches nor subtitles at all...
    Now that sounds like a translation-not-being-done problem. Aaargh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants
    I think the "minor factions" all default to one-liner remarks, although the plan was (and speeches were written) for more speech chunks than were recorded.
    Give us a finger, and we'll demand the arm... It's just so sad that there isn't more speeches for the "other" factions. It was true in Rome with only the romans getting speeches, and it's true in M2TW with only the 5 first factions getting speeches...

    I was really, really hoping to have speeches for my turks after I had reconciled with not having speeches for my parthians...

    Oh well. It always seems like my favourite factions get the boot somewhere... At least I now have my ottomans again!
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    Not really sapi, I remember all factions in RTW having a host of battle speeches, not just the romans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21
    The 5 starter factions have more lines
    Sadly that was also true of Rome: Total War. The three great Roman factions always seemed to say much more about the faction(s) they were fighting and the enemy's number compared to the other culture groups such as the Greeks and Barbarians. Also, unfortunately, some groups had "clone" speeches such as the Egyptians, Easterners and Carthaginians which, sadly, removed some variety. Although I do not own M2:TW, I would beleive that, from what I have seen, that the speeches have much more variety. Yet if the variety is of higher quality or not remains for me to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
    Sadly that was also true of Rome: Total War. The three great Roman factions always seemed to say much more about the faction(s) they were fighting and the enemy's number compared to the other culture groups such as the Greeks and Barbarians. Also, unfortunately, some groups had "clone" speeches such as the Egyptians, Easterners and Carthaginians which, sadly, removed some variety. Although I do not own M2:TW, I would beleive that, from what I have seen, that the speeches have much more variety. Yet if the variety is of higher quality or not remains for me to see.
    There is more variety of languages/cultures in M2tw so I would assume so.
    Like theres:
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    Spanish/Portugal
    Eastern European etc
    Not many factions share same accents so I assume not same speaches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CeltiberoMordred
    ...And why in the spanish version of M2TW, french are shy and haven't any speeches nor subtitles at all...
    In localized (i.e. not English) versions only the faction which matches the localization (the HRE in Germany, for example) gets a full speech, all other factions just get one-liners.

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    I've given up hope for the Turks, I wait and wait, and it feels like they'll have a speech maybe 1 out of every 5 or 6 battles, and it's always one line, maybe two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran
    In localized (i.e. not English) versions only the faction which matches the localization (the HRE in Germany, for example) gets a full speech, all other factions just get one-liners.
    In the spanish version we got full and specific speeches for hre, italians, spanish, english, etc. It's true that when you play another factions just like danish, russians or muslims, speeches are one-liner mostly, but at least they tell something to their troops... But when you play French, their generals and captains are mute No speeches at all.


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    i dont think Islamic factions are minor, but where are there speeches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Grace
    i dont think Islamic factions are minor, but where are there speeches?
    Every faction besides England, France, HRE, Spain and Milan are "minor".

    The "minor" factions are the ones you have to unlock.
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    Minor factions give one liners all the time, although they do at least say something.

    Would've been fun to hear the Scots talk like in Braveheart 'They make take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom!' Or Muslims factions blabbering about the 'infidelic pigs'.

    Yesterday my English general was muttering stuff about 'Is my wife over there? Have you met her?...If she there with the enemy we're all doomed men! DO YOU WANT A FIGHT?!'
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