Faction List for EB2?

**Laundreu** · 05-17-2007, 02:31

Originally Posted by Anthony

Yes. They'd be more into Hallstatt-style axes, shortswords, helmets, etc. Virtually no mail to speak of, instead wearing scale armor as their upmost type of armor, or a girdle of vertical metal strips. Longswords only used by the most wealthy. Mind, Goidils used, largely, a type of shortsword near identical to the gladius most of the time (effectively more of a big dagger than a sword) anyway, but there were also long, broad-bladed swords, and La Tene longswords appear eventually, and with them, we find some exceptionally long blades now and again with long tangs, implying two-handed weapons (which would make sense, Irish druids and some champions are described as having used swords used in both hands, though most of them probably weren't so long, but given the nature of such an item, it'd most likely be a custom piece for the user, not some cheap 'sword' churned out for poor folks). Doing them would be a kind of complex operation either way.

I'm almost in favor of the Goidils now, just because their military sounds like an awesome thing.

**Anthony** · 05-17-2007, 02:43

A lot of folks misconcieve their similarities to Gauls and Britons. They were quite unique for their place in the world, and they'd certainly be a different view of the world. They're also advantageous in that we know a surprising amount about how their armies and such organized, the types of soldiers they had, etc., as they don't really change much based on archaeology, between when they become definably Gaels at all strata of society (not just an aristocracy), and when they become Christians and start writing extensively. The next big change for them would be the viking invasions, so we get a lengthy period of evidence from which we detail what they carried, how they fought, what soldiers ranked where in society, how they arrayed their armies, the difference between clan/tribal 'wars' and actual fullscale wars (which is a distinct difference in how battles and such were performed). A lot of the agitating nature of doing many factions is we don't really know much about how they viewed fighting, and we just have to make some assumptions based on as logical an assessment as we can make, and look at similar or related people and try and draw on them a bit for an understanding of how X faction would operate. We wouldn't have that issue so much with an early Gaelic people, because we know so much more about them, as in, how they viewed things and operated, then we do about people like the Gauls.

**Alexander777** · 05-17-2007, 04:17

I am extremely happy to know that my list got some debate going and even got noticed by the EB celebrity gossip reporter!

I am also glad that I actually got one of the factions right (although I hope that by the time EB1 roles around at least two of those factions will be in it). I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the one I guessed correctly is the Belgae (since it says in the eleutheroi page that they were considered before..at least I think it said that). I'm glad there seems to be support for a Goidilic faction too. I think it would be neat to have them start out with more Briton like units, then have a reform and be able to get the hammer of doom guys and the Irish Vasci Shock Infantry

Also, I do agree that the town of Massylia would be in a better position for a western African faction, but is there enough historical evidence to give it factional units??

**Ignoramus** · 05-17-2007, 05:32

An EB membership! An EB membership! My kingdom for an EB membership!

I can't wait to see what those new factions are.

**Dumbass** · 05-17-2007, 17:33

Originally Posted by Alexander777

Also, I do agree that the town of Massylia would be in a better position for a western African faction, but is there enough historical evidence to give it factional units??

No not the town Massila, I mean the north african area of Massalyie, (maybe it's the dodgy spelling) they were like the numidians, but further down the coast from Carthage, in the area south of iberia.

**Alexander777** · 05-18-2007, 02:34

Yes, I know that is the town you are talking about. I just wonder if there was enough historical evidence to provide them with their own special units.