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    Quote Originally Posted by FactionHeir
    Err what are pavise spearmen?!?

    If you modded your units and maybe added a 0 too much somewhere then that would explain it.
    Pavise Spearmen are the elite spearmen of Hungary. Same or similar stats to armoured spearmen, I believe.
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    Ah, I never played Hungary so that striked me as odd as even the AI Hungary never built them (or never got to...)
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    hmm didnt he say he fought the battle, if you did it must have been a clinic on bad decisions.

    just yesterday i held my small castle with 4 spear militia and 3 peasant archers vs frances 5 mounted sgts and like 8 units of infantry on vh... it was epic. the cav pushed my inf back like they were toothpicks but my spears held long enough to slaughter all the cav and everyone routed, they made a few more attempts after recovering, but my archers on the walls would shoot em with fire and they never made it back to the gate before routing
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    Actually, with a few mistakes the situation he describes is sensibile IMHO.

    Cannon towers fire very slowly and are very innaccurrate against individual units so it's a near ceartantiy that the Ram made it to the gate, if he kept his units up on the wall so he could shoot them up a buit more then ran them down at the last minute he could have lost. Especially since troops emerging from the base of a tower fiht about as well as troops attacking a wall from a seige tower.

    He'd have still had to have been very unlucky and made a few more mistakes, but it is possibbile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabutai
    hmm didnt he say he fought the battle, if you did it must have been a clinic on bad decisions.
    Yes! I get the impression that there is something we are not being told about this seige, or about the state of the XehhII's installation.

    I noticed that on another thread he is claiming remarkable success in open battles, so something isn't quite right somewhere.
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    I must admit (not proud of it though) that I sometimes autoresolve sieges (when I am sieging) when I have failed to seize the settlement by hand. Indeed I get remarkable victories with minimal losses when I have been slaughtered during the real deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didz
    Yes! I get the impression that there is something we are not being told about this seige, or about the state of the XehhII's installation.

    I noticed that on another thread he is claiming remarkable success in open battles, so something isn't quite right somewhere.
    I'm definitely guessing modded units to make some properly über.
    Reason are the battle odds.

    He would never in a normal game have 4:12 (which actually wouldn't show as that but as 1:3) with his army compared to 5 peasant archers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FactionHeir
    I'm definitely guessing modded units to make some properly über. Reason are the battle odds.

    He would never in a normal game have 4:12 (which actually wouldn't show as that but as 1:3) with his army compared to 5 peasant archers.
    Thats what I was thinking too...the phrase 'hoist by ones own petard' springs to mind.
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    yep mods, but why would you be purposefully using weaker units when you modded other units stonger unless he wanted a harder game in which he shouldn't be compaining about losing
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    Quote Originally Posted by FactionHeir
    Ah, I never played Hungary so that striked me as odd as even the AI Hungary never built them (or never got to...)
    They require a citadel barracks to train, so they are rather late... And the hungarian AI focus on horsies and milita, so they are also very rare.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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