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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    Huh, theyre both 90 men for me.
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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    There's something called unit scale ya know ;)
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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    I loved my Huscarls and Dismounted Huscarls when I was playing as the Danes. I also liked the fact that you can train Norse War Clerics with a Cathedral or Abbey in a city - it's nice to have that heavy cavalry option when you need it.

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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    @Factionheir - you sure about the numbers?

    iirc mine were identical, but I could just be losing my memory

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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    sapi: Unless my memory fails me after having played the Danes for over 200 hours up until 3 days ago ;)
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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    I guess i'm just used to playing on huge unit sizes with rounded troop numbers, then

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    Ahhhhhh jealousy....this jealousy....
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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    Quote Originally Posted by FactionHeir
    There's something called unit scale ya know ;)
    I am aware of the unit scale. My point was that, while theyre both 90 for me, their upkeeps are pretty much the same.
    150 for raiders, 155 for Huscarls. Since the Huscarls have better stats, seems like a done deal for me.
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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    Actually, it's 155 for raiders and 150 for huscarls.
    stats (offense/defense):
    Viking Raiders 9/9 (charge 2)
    Dismounted Huscarls 11/15 (charge 3)
    Norse swordmen 11/18 (charge 2)
    Dismounted feudal knights 13/21 (charge 3)

    so on paper the differences are rather large. I don't know what the armour upgrades will do to the defense of the raiders. They have the largest group size though.
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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    After the relevant armour upgrades the diffrance between Huscarls and Viking Raiders is 1 point of defence. but Viking raiders are Untrained whilst Huscarls are Trained and thats worth several points of attack in reality so I would say the Huscarls have a slight advantage here.
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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    Well, I prefer to use Norse Swords to make up for the defence of the Huscarls. Theyre pretty good pinning units, and arent terribly expensive.
    Mostly I just use FK's to guard my important cities, since (with the defence bonus on walls) theyre damned hard to kill.
    I suppose if you had the cash (Sailed down to Antioch, or marched off to Timbuktu, maybe? :P) you could use FK's as the main part of your army, but that 250 upkeep can put a serious dent in your income.
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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    Swordsmen and Dismounted Knights to make up the main line. Huscarls are good for end flanking manuevers. Get them on the flanks of the enemy's two ends and then roll them up towards the center. War Clerics are great for chasing down fleeing enemies once the enemy breaks and runs.

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    Default Re: Danes: Huscarls vs. Feudal knights, Norse Swordsmen vs. Dismounted FK

    Clerics are bad at chasing routers. They are slower than Scouts and generally less effective.
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