Patch 1.2 Release/Delay Discussion

[fenir]

oh crap.........just read the readme .........



================> you need 7 gigs of free space<===================




fenir resizing mode.........hmmmm ok going need MTW to hand over those 2 gigs of free space to MTW2.


3.91 + 2 = 5.91.........arghhhhhhhh need another hard drive.


ok rtw drive has a spare 1.25 gig

3.91 + 2 +1.25 = woot!


ok, make it so........


fenir

[sapi]

To make things clear, you need 3gb of free space on your m2tw drive for patching, and a few gig on your boot drive for playing

[crpcarrot]

er.. sorry but which readme are you refering to??

[fenir]

thank you sapi, but it doesn't matter now, spent the last hour boosting and consolidating my "free space".


I have high hopes for this patch........*crosses fingers*



I keep telling myself, CA do good patches.......CA do good patches........

[Matty]

Patch will be out 14:00 GMT+1.

From the .com forum.

Gentlemen, start your engines....

[sapi]

...which is 2300 GMT+10 unless I'm much mistaken.

Drat

[_Tristan_]

Any idea of the best DL sites around to get the patch from...

I'm in the starting blocks... Think I will be late to work as the time of release is the time I have to go back to work....here in Paris...

Worth it anyway...

[Lusted]

Im gonna download it from one of the torrents when it comes out, those will likely have the best speed.

[TB666]

Im gonna download it from one of the torrents when it comes out, those will likely have the best speed.

Ditto.
Now let's just hope the guys that does have the demo will keep the thing seeded long enough

[sapi]

Why exactly would they have multiple torrents, anyway?

[Nellup]

Patch will be out 14:00 GMT+1.

Excellent, that's 13:00 GMT, just over an hour left now...

[sapi]

I hate to say it but you're a few hours off

It's roughly 11:00 GMT now

[Carl]

Any idea of any websites that will have it, and if i'm reading right it's going to be 3PM GMT for the release.

Why exactly would they have multiple torrents, anyway?

I don't use that service but my step brother uses something similar called Limewire, and the download speed is limited to the total bandwidth of all user with the file your downloading. More torrents is the same as more users I imagine so that means faster downloads. I'm also pretty sure theirs a limit to how many people, (physically, not bandwidth, speaking), can download from each host at once.

[sapi]

@Carl

Firstly, afaik 1400 gmt+1 is 1300 ie 1pm gmt

Secondly - there's no point to multiple torrents, and that's the reason I asked that question. We won't discuss limewire here, as not only is it very far off topic and mostly illegal it has absolutely nothing to do with bittorrent; but suffice to say that there can be unlimited users in a torrent swarm and so it makes no sense to have multiple torrents unless there's multiple versions of the file.

But didn't someone say that CA confirmed that there was only going to be an international english version?

I doubt they'd bother with torrents for the smaller non-english language communities...

[FactionHeir]

Well I just looked on totalwar.com and their forum (without going through every single page though) and found no readme about the new patch (not a new one anyway that is different from the one that was posted here end of march)

What I did read though is that they found some fatal error in the patch and postponed it again? (that was posted at 3 or so am today on a German site)

[Carl]

Secondly - there's no point to multiple torrents, and that's the reason I asked that question. We won't discuss limewire here, as not only is it very far off topic and mostly illegal it has absolutely nothing to do with bittorrent; but suffice to say that there can be unlimited users in a torrent swarm and so it makes no sense to have multiple torrents unless there's multiple versions of the file.

My apologies then, it was my understanding that these torrent services where all file sharing services and all file sharing services used the exact same method, (and thus had the same limitations and advantages and other functionality points).

Is their any way you can explain how having multiple torrents WON'T produce faster downloads? It seems pretty obvious that having multiple sources means faster downloads, it even works that way with download sites, because no one site is getting all the strain so overall, over multiple sites it speeds things up.

Sorry for the off topic.

[Stig]

Patch is delayed as they found a bug (something to do with battles) in it (In Germany some people already had it and they found that bug) so wait for 5 more days or so for you all I think.

Unless that is the German patch only.
Gamershell withdrew the links to the patch, so 50% it's true.

[Nellup]

I hate to say it but you're a few hours off

It's roughly 11:00 GMT now

Not according to every clock I own and the forums themselves, at the top of each post where it says the time and date it says "Today 11.56" for my post and then "Today 11.59" for your response, and I checked my settings and I've got it set to GMT time for the forums...

[zstajerski]

nnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

thats not fair

goddam

Ihave been up the whole night sleept for some hours and I come back to the forums to read this sh*t.....

I think I'm gonna cry

[movint]

Thought i'd clear up this GMT thing. If you're in Britain, then it is currently GMT +1 i.e. British Summer Time. So it's out at 2 in the UK.

If it's not delayed for another two months that is.

[sapi]

@Carl - at the risk of going OT i'll explain.

Torrents are files telling you about files. You download these files, ie the patch, from other users with them. Thus the torrent is just a means of accessing other people with teh file (through a tracker, but I won't go into that).

As such, having two torrents is pointless, as the number of people wanting the patch will be the same.

Having, 30 people on one torrent and 70 on another would actually be slower for both than 100 on the one.


Back on topic, does anyone have a link to an official release stating that the patch has been delayed?

[alpaca]

Why exactly would they have multiple torrents, anyway?

Maybe they just meant multiple seeds?

Edit: Hmm according to the German site 4players.de (which is I think one of the hosts for the patch), it will be delayed again because of some bugs.

[Durallan]

apparently theyre on german gaming sites and some people who did get the patch from jolt before it crashed said that it was crashing on them so it is likely that this is true. Having said that I ordered CnC 3 Tiberium wars, special collectors edition and because its a public holiday tomorrow and they don't deliver on weekends I will be waiting till wednesday next week to get it. So I have to wait a loooong time for it too so waiting longer for medieval 2 1.2 patch is no fuss for me. I was looking forward to 4 days of medieval 2 patched, but I should probably do some work instead ;)

[sapi]

The only thing that irritates me is that a delay at this stage is a 5 day delay (tomorrow's Good Friday, then a weekend, so the first day of retesting is monday)

Still, better to get it working than not.

[Odin]

Back on topic, does anyone have a link to an official release stating that the patch has been delayed?

Hey Sapi,

I was browsing the official forums and there is no "official release" that the patch has been delayed.

http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic...e.html?page=16

the last few pages of this thread have a few members making the claim of the incident with german players as Durallan describes

[sapi]

Thanks; I'll have a read later.

In the mean time, I'm sure none of us here want this thread to mirror the .com in tems of CA bashing ~

[Rhedd]

You know what would be neat?

An offical statement from CA would be neat.

Wouldn't that be neat?

I try to be patient and not complain, but I'm starting to wonder which orifice their collective head is up.

To be fair, though, If the patch HAS been delayed AGAIN at the last minute, I'd be hiding under my desk instead of posting, if I were them. ^_^

[alpaca]

Thanks; I'll have a read later.

In the mean time, I'm sure none of us here want this thread to mirror the .com in tems of CA bashing ~

Why not
I mean, it's their official forums, after all.

Anyways, if it's really "crashing the game every time" as somebody claimed this really makes me wonder if there's something afoot with the localisation, because such a thing ould have been caught in testing otherwise - or the QA is really completely useless, which I refuse to believe

[FactionHeir]

Yeah, I don't know how official the mirror sites' disclosures are but I would think that they are for real. Its not the 1st anymore anyway.

Btw, where was my hammer?


[edit]
alpaca, CA usually tests only by using auto resolve for battles so it could be easily missed by them :p


[edit2]
Anyone taking bets that someone - anyone - told their girlfriend that they would be busy this extended weekend and are now hitting their heads on their tables that the patch won't be out till after? :D

[Odin]

alpaca, CA usually tests only by using auto resolve for battles so it could be easily missed by them :p

If thats true (I am hoping your smiley face is an indication you are joking) thats perhaps the most disturbing thing I have heard regarding MTW2 in some time.

However, there is nothing official from CA or Sega, except that the patch will be released today. Until I see something from them Im not banking on the word of a few misc posters.