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    Can you explain to me why this is any different, or special, or why the hubbub ? Isn't it the same stuff that appears in 99% of the "lyrics" of hip-hop and gangsta music ?
    I fail to see why this deserves particular attention...
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    Imus is white, that's why (and that's what Vladimir was referring to, if I'm not mistaken).

    Slightly off-topic, but did anyone see the Daily Show episode recently where they were talking about the N-word? They had John Oliver and Larry Wilmore (the Senior Black Correspondent) doing the "interviews", and Wilmore's job was to actually say the words so Oliver wouldn't get in trouble. Disturbingly hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone
    Imus is white, that's why (and that's what Vladimir was referring to, if I'm not mistaken).
    Is that all ?
    Aren't there a bunch of white hip-hop "artists", too ?
    Well, anyway, thank you for the explanation, drone. I guess it kinda makes sense in today's messed-up, double-standards, PC society, in a weird twisted sort of way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blodrast
    Is that all ?
    Aren't there a bunch of white hip-hop "artists", too ?
    Well, anyway, thank you for the explanation, drone. I guess it kinda makes sense in today's messed-up, double-standards, PC society, in a weird twisted sort of way.
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    What kind of insult is this? Nappy-headed hos? So his best shot at someone is that they are black whores with hair that is very curly? What an idiot.

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    Seems to me he was trying too hard to be funny. I read a partial transcript of this conversation with his buddy. The whole thing smacks of foot-in-mouth syndrome.

    Suppose there are any incidents of a minority insulting a white group (other than the GOP)?

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    I'm really having a hard time figuring Americans out lately.

    There was a thread in here a while ago about a bunch of Texan university students (law students, IIRC) who threw a MLK Day party where they dressed up as pimps, drank Schlitz Malt Liquor out of brown paper bags, and ate fried chicken.

    I found the whole idea offensive and racist, and was generally poo-pood by American backroom orgahs.

    But now you guys are getting offended by a guy making reference to 'fros?

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    Yall have a dial change the station. this is America we can say what we want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball
    I'm really having a hard time figuring Americans out lately.

    There was a thread in here a while ago about a bunch of Texan university students (law students, IIRC) who threw a MLK Day party where they dressed up as pimps, drank Schlitz Malt Liquor out of brown paper bags, and ate fried chicken.

    I found the whole idea offensive and racist, and was generally poo-pood by American backroom orgahs.

    But now you guys are getting offended by a guy making reference to 'fros?

    Don't you just love how twisted everything is now?

    As for the topic, I view freedom of speech this way: people have a right to say what they want, but other people also have a right to blast those people for saying such things. It works out in the end. If someone says something racist/sexist, they are bound to be blasted by others and punished in some way without the law stepping in. Passing a law to limit speech is asinine and besides, who has the authority to say what should be allowed and what shouldn't? You're bound to get sticky situations and it turns everyone into spineless wusses anyway. Geez, people today have no backbone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drone
    Imus is white, that's why (and that's what Vladimir was referring to, if I'm not mistaken).

    Slightly off-topic, but did anyone see the Daily Show episode recently where they were talking about the N-word? They had John Oliver and Larry Wilmore (the Senior Black Correspondent) doing the "interviews", and Wilmore's job was to actually say the words so Oliver wouldn't get in trouble. Disturbingly hilarious.
    http://www.comedycentral.com/motherl...&is_large=true
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdhfyWbJhAk
    That is disturbingly hilarious.

    As to the controversy - seems overblown. It seems he wasn't acting with malice or trying to insult the players.

    And apologizing to al sharpton is just stupid.

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    It seems he wasn't acting with malice or trying to insult the players.
    thats the problem , he was broadcasting and didn't think .
    He has a long line of accusations about racist overtones , he was speaking with someone who also has had the same accusations , they both said things that can be viewed as racially insulting on air .
    With the new free speech republican moral majority public decency rubbish the stations cannot risk it .

    If he wants to say insulting things then he should feel free to , if he wants to insult people .
    But if he wants to say insulting things but not insult people then he runs into a bit of a problem .

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    This is worth a reprint.

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    Imus isn’t the real bad guy

    Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.

    By JASON WHITLOCK
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    Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem.

    You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality.

    You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor.

    Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred.

    The bigots win again.

    While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos.

    I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas.

    It is us. At this time, we are our own worst enemies. We have allowed our youths to buy into a culture (hip hop) that has been perverted, corrupted and overtaken by prison culture. The music, attitude and behavior expressed in this culture is anti-black, anti-education, demeaning, self-destructive, pro-drug dealing and violent.

    Rather than confront this heinous enemy from within, we sit back and wait for someone like Imus to have a slip of the tongue and make the mistake of repeating the things we say about ourselves.

    It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud.

    I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike Lupica blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack.

    But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$.

    I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed.

    Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.

    Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage.

    But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction.

    In the grand scheme, Don Imus is no threat to us in general and no threat to black women in particular. If his words are so powerful and so destructive and must be rebuked so forcefully, then what should we do about the idiot rappers on BET, MTV and every black-owned radio station in the country who use words much more powerful and much more destructive?

    I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do?

    When Imus does any of that, call me and I’ll get upset. Until then, he is what he is — a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore when you’re not looking to be made a victim.

    No. We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out.

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    Perfect take on this...

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=cCP_CgaAxNk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    This is worth a reprint.
    Wow, common sense and the ability to see beyond the double standard PC crap, and speak against it - good stuff.
    Therapy helps, but screaming obscenities is cheaper.

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