"Nappy headed ho"? Sorry Imus, you gotta go...

[Strike For The South]

Yall have a dial change the station. this is America we can say what we want.

[Tribesman]

this is America we can say what we want.

nope , your vocal moral majority(or is that loud small minded minority) got themselves a little bill pushed through .
Which means you can't say what you want on the government regulated airwaves .
Its all for the sake of decency

[PanzerJaeger]

There has been way too much attention focused on Imus.

I feel there needs to be a proper investigation into these young women's sexual history.

Imus may have been completely correct. We just dont know.

[TevashSzat]

I remember that show drone, it was hilarious.

[Cowhead418]

I'm really having a hard time figuring Americans out lately.

There was a thread in here a while ago about a bunch of Texan university students (law students, IIRC) who threw a MLK Day party where they dressed up as pimps, drank Schlitz Malt Liquor out of brown paper bags, and ate fried chicken.

I found the whole idea offensive and racist, and was generally poo-pood by American backroom orgahs.

But now you guys are getting offended by a guy making reference to 'fros?

Don't you just love how twisted everything is now?

As for the topic, I view freedom of speech this way: people have a right to say what they want, but other people also have a right to blast those people for saying such things. It works out in the end. If someone says something racist/sexist, they are bound to be blasted by others and punished in some way without the law stepping in. Passing a law to limit speech is asinine and besides, who has the authority to say what should be allowed and what shouldn't? You're bound to get sticky situations and it turns everyone into spineless wusses anyway. Geez, people today have no backbone.

[Ja'chyra]

So what is wrong with the saying exactly? I would say the only thing wrong with it is calling the girls Ho's, although I'm pretty sure that's not even a word As for nappy headed, that's a pretty poor excuse for an insult.

As for saying "you people" so what he was talking to more than one person at the time.

[KukriKhan]

Looks like the show's advertisers are starting to bail out, and local radio & TV stations are dropping their presentations of the show.

Maybe he'll be able to get a job doing voice-overs for Home Depot gardening equipment (hoes, for example), or a carpeting company - where knap is an issue.

[Gregoshi]

Maybe he'll be able to get a job doing voice-overs for...a carpeting company - where knap is an issue.

That would be appropriate since many want to see him called to the carpet.

[Lemur]

Colbert has a good riff on the controversy. Clicky the linkie before Viacom sues the source out of existence. Anybody else notice how Colbert and Daily Show stuff is vanishing off the net? Anybody else notice how godawful Comedy Central's video service is?

[Devastatin Dave]

Looks like the show's advertisers are starting to bail out, and local radio & TV stations are dropping their presentations of the show.

Maybe he'll be able to get a job doing voice-overs for Home Depot gardening equipment (hoes, for example), or a carpeting company - where knap is an issue.

Maybe voice overs for Napster as well...

[KukriKhan]

Woo-Hoo, Dave joining in the pun fun.

Now MSNBC is dropping Mr Imus from its TV simulcast. Things are turning kinda grim for Donnie.

I wonder if SIRIUS will offer him a job, maybe as an opening act for Howard Stern. They both stimulate my involuntary yuck reflex.

I dimly remember his radio show on (then) "underground" FM radio from Cleveland - we could get it on clear days in Detroit. He was sort of funny back then, and played good music - the stuff you didn't hear on Top 40 AM radio.

[TevashSzat]

I was watching comedy central show today and the daily show as well as the colvert report did some wonderful parodies on this situation.

[Devastatin Dave]

Hahaha!!! One less Liberal on the radio!!! No Air America, no Imus, now its time to wait for Rosie to open her mouth and say something to get canned.

[Major Robert Dump]

Rosie at her finest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2NaxIZK28o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2NaxIZK28o

[Lemur]

I was watching comedy central show today and the daily show as well as the colvert report did some wonderful parodies on this situation.

Yah, I posted a link to the video in post #39. Comedy Central's video interface is so nasty, I felt I had to do something for those who might want to see it.

DevDave, was Imus considered a liberal? I never got into his show, so I'm sort of in the dark.

[doc_bean]

Meh, at least we've got 2 radio presenters saying "black apes" when referring to the Williams sisters a while ago. Now *that* was racist.

[Xiahou]

I've got no use for Imus or Stern either. There's much more interesting stuff on the radio without listening to that garbage.

Regardless, my thoughts pretty much square up with Lemur's first post on the subject.

[Devastatin Dave]

Meh, at least we've got 2 radio presenters saying "black apes" when referring to the Williams sisters a while ago. Now *that* was racist.

Unbelievable, really!?!?! They were fired, hopefully, right?

[doc_bean]

Unbelievable, really!?!?! They were fired, hopefully, right?

Nah, they just had to publically apoligize.

(not legally, just pressure from the masses)

[Vladimir]

Unbelievable, really!?!?! They were fired, hopefully, right?

Was the white political cartoonist who depicted Condoleezza Rice with Ape-like features fired? Or the image editor that changed her facial coloring?

This Imus guy is a friend of John Kerry right?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Imus is white, that's why (and that's what Vladimir was referring to, if I'm not mistaken).

Slightly off-topic, but did anyone see the Daily Show episode recently where they were talking about the N-word? They had John Oliver and Larry Wilmore (the Senior Black Correspondent) doing the "interviews", and Wilmore's job was to actually say the words so Oliver wouldn't get in trouble. Disturbingly hilarious.
http://www.comedycentral.com/motherl...&is_large=true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdhfyWbJhAk

That is disturbingly hilarious.

As to the controversy - seems overblown. It seems he wasn't acting with malice or trying to insult the players.

And apologizing to al sharpton is just stupid.

Crazed Rabbit

[Tribesman]

It seems he wasn't acting with malice or trying to insult the players.

thats the problem , he was broadcasting and didn't think .
He has a long line of accusations about racist overtones , he was speaking with someone who also has had the same accusations , they both said things that can be viewed as racially insulting on air .
With the new free speech republican moral majority public decency rubbish the stations cannot risk it .

If he wants to say insulting things then he should feel free to , if he wants to insult people .
But if he wants to say insulting things but not insult people then he runs into a bit of a problem .

[drone]

And now it's done.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/0...ers/index.html

[Lemur]

This is worth a reprint.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Imus isn’t the real bad guy

Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.

By JASON WHITLOCK
Columnist

Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem.

You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality.

You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor.

Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred.

The bigots win again.

While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos.

I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas.

It is us. At this time, we are our own worst enemies. We have allowed our youths to buy into a culture (hip hop) that has been perverted, corrupted and overtaken by prison culture. The music, attitude and behavior expressed in this culture is anti-black, anti-education, demeaning, self-destructive, pro-drug dealing and violent.

Rather than confront this heinous enemy from within, we sit back and wait for someone like Imus to have a slip of the tongue and make the mistake of repeating the things we say about ourselves.

It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud.

I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike Lupica blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack.

But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$.

I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed.

Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.

Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage.

But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction.

In the grand scheme, Don Imus is no threat to us in general and no threat to black women in particular. If his words are so powerful and so destructive and must be rebuked so forcefully, then what should we do about the idiot rappers on BET, MTV and every black-owned radio station in the country who use words much more powerful and much more destructive?

I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do?

When Imus does any of that, call me and I’ll get upset. Until then, he is what he is — a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore when you’re not looking to be made a victim.

No. We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out.

[PanzerJaeger]

Perfect take on this...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cCP_CgaAxNk

[Vladimir]

This:

I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas.

DD couldn't have said it better himself.

And this:

It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud.

Don't be dissin Dave!

[drone]

I know this has been a train wreck, but seriously...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/....ap/index.html

CAMDEN, New Jersey (AP) -- New Jersey Gov. Jon S. Corzine was in critical condition Friday -- but expected to recover -- after a car crash that broke his leg, his breastbone, and six ribs on each side.

Corzine's motorcade was hit on the Garden State Parkway Thursday night and his vehicle crashed into a guardrail.

Authorities were searching for a pickup truck driver whose actions were blamed for the crash.

Corzine, 60, won't be able to resume his duties as governor for several days, if not weeks, and he won't walk normally for months, his doctor said. Fortunately, he did not suffer any brain damage in the crash, said Dr. Robert Ostrum, who performed two hours of surgery on the governor Thursday night at Cooper University Hospital.

"He's in serious shape, but he's alive and going to survive. Hopefully, he'll be back to work in a few weeks," said state Senate President Richard Codey, who took over as acting governor, speaking Friday on WNBC-TV.

The crash occurred around 6 p.m. while Corzine was en route from Atlantic City to the governor's mansion in Princeton to moderate a meeting between the Rutgers women's basketball team and radio personality Don Imus.

We have our first true casualty.

[Spino]

I know this has been a train wreck, but seriously...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/....ap/index.html

We have our first true casualty.

Happy coincidence?!? I'm not too broken up about this (pun intended). Corzine is an incredibly corrupt SOB who might have been spared much of the trauma he sustained if had been wearing his seatbelt.

Corzine was riding in the front passenger's seat of the SUV when a white pickup truck swerved to avoid a red pickup truck that had moved onto the highway from the shoulder, State Police Superintendent Rick Fuentes said. The white pickup hit the passenger side of the SUV, sending it skidding into a guardrail. The red pickup left the scene.

Fuentes said it was unclear whether the governor was wearing his seat belt at the time of the crash, but Corzine spokesman Anthony Coley said Friday that it appeared he was not.

[Blodrast]

This is worth a reprint.

Wow, common sense and the ability to see beyond the double standard PC crap, and speak against it - good stuff.

[Rameusb5]

I agree. The article Lemur posted pretty much points out what I've known for a while now...

That America always misses the point. We're all so caught up in our own personal agendas that we've become totally incapable of either being objective or learning from our mistakes.

Terry Schivo (spelling) was the prime example of this. That poor woman nearly killed herself because of a poor self image and all we could do is bicker about what to do with her corpse.

The Imus example stands as well. The guy is an insensitive bigot. But he's PAID to be one! That's his JOB. I'm not saying there should be no consequences for his ridiculously callous comments, but he's become a pariah for doing almost nothing at all. Michael Richards was in the same boat. Yeah, he made some really awful remarks in a COMEDY CLUB. He said them with hate in his heart. He was wrong to do it, but my god, let's not burn him at the stake for it.

The core of the problem here isn't radio shock jocks, or racist remarks, or anything like that. The problem here is that there are SOME people in this country who are using EVERY opportunity they can to slander their enemies. This is pure opportunitism. In this case, the people who are crying are AT LEAST as racist as the people they are decrying. It's disgusting.