Exploring the Opposition Mind on Iraq: to the future

**Pindar** · 04-11-2007, 18:49

In an earlier poll the opposition mind was asked to rank their opposition. This was the poll: Poll The majority response numbers as of April 10 were roughly divided three ways between the categorical stances: 'it is immoral/ it is illegal' and two pragmatic stances: 'it is cannot succeed' and 'it is the wrong focus'.

Poll Two noted above: Exploring the Opposition Mind on Iraq: to the future

This poll allows multiple responses and is public.

**Tribesman** · 04-11-2007, 19:16

voted other since staying or going isn't really gonna make bugger all difference

**Azi Tohak** · 04-11-2007, 19:53

I don't like this mess, but I still cannot believe leaving now would be good for anyone involved. I think it would turn into a humanitarian disaster that people would have to care about, and the UN would have a great time sorting out the mess.

Azi

P.S. But what I do find delightful is the prospect of the liberals in the US clamoring for US invovlement in said circumstances. I hope they like their crow covered in sand.

**drone** · 04-11-2007, 20:51

7. Must remain martially committed until government is stable irrespective of the error of war.
8. Martially committed until government is stable and reasonably democratic irrespective the error.

On these 2 choices, which government are you referring to, ours or theirs?

Maybe we should have 1 final democratic act. Simple election by the Iraqi people, blue fingers and all: Do you want the US to leave, yes or no? Count the votes and act accordingly.

Of course, the terrorists probably want us to stay. I'm sure the rest of the world wants us to remain mired for a while longer as well.

**Kanamori** · 04-11-2007, 22:09

Originally Posted by Tribesman

voted other since staying or going isn't really gonna make bugger all difference

Since coming back to the forums, I was surprised that I missed the tones of optimism in your posts before.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 04-11-2007, 22:20

I voted stay till stable/democratic. But I'm really undecided.

I do think it is wrong focus, but if it can't succeed then immediate withdrawal is the best option...don't see the point of a timetable.

**Tribesman** · 04-11-2007, 22:46

Since coming back to the forums, I was surprised that I missed the tones of optimism in your posts before.

But seriously , its like a bunch of cowboy builders have attempted to build a huge complex tower , but they completely screwed the foundations , they can keep on bracing it up or adding little balancing features to temporarily stop it toppling over , but its gonna sink and come crashing down anyhow .
They could however go through the really expensive process of underpinning and getting the foundations right

, but that means they have to remove the bracing ..... which brings it all crashing down anyhow .
They might just let it come crashing down and hope someone else will step in to rebuild it properly from scratch , but anyone who might possibly consider the job will take one look at the pile of rubble and say bollox to that contract
It is a no win situation .
Its been a no win situation ever since the muppets completely bodged the planning and groundwork but went ahead anyway .

But anyhow , since this is the second recent "what do those who oppose the mess think" topic , how about some input from those who did and still do support the fiasco , that would be a really funny "explore the mind" topic