Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
Unfortunately it just ain't so Hore , division of the wealth and resources is one very big stumbling block . The current surge in ethnic cleansing to alter the balance in one region before the referendum is precicely because one group wants to ensure that it gets the wealth from the area for itself .

For your idea about splitting the contry , how about trying a comparison to the breakup of India/Pakistan/Kashmir/Myannamar and later Bangladesh(maybe add issue of Jammu and Aksai just for completeness) .
Macsen mentions independant Kurdistan , possibly including Turkish territory . But what about the territory in 4 other countries that they also claim ?
Actually, it's a lot brighter than it seems. This issue hasn't got a lot(or none at all) of coverage, but every time I have seen it mention, it always mention a shia/sunni/kurd leader who is willing to compromise heavily. I saw a very good news report a few months ago with this topic. A lot of people were interviewed from leader to commoner, and all of them were willing to redistribute wealth to make a seperation possible. Sure, it may go horribly wrong(and the odds may be in favour of that), but as I've said before, it's the only real solution I can see. It may be kashmir, but it could also turn out to become like the separation of Norway and Sweden or, if noone are familiar with that, the separtion of ex-USSR provinces.

Quote Originally Posted by Odin
I prefer "moderate" as I will tell anyone who listens I am more closely associated with the Blue dog democrats then republicans.

That aside, you make a fair logical point, no matter your location or political conviction.
Well, I'm not really a communist either, but it sounded much better and funnier
Wouldn't have had quite the same "schwung" over it to say "US right moderate and european left moderate"...