Latest update on 1.2 patch from Sega/CA

[sapi]

fenir, you really are tempting me here, and if you weren't australian I'd be doing nasty things to you about now

[Quickening]

Since this topic is now for all patch 1.2 discussion I'll mention this. If the Pope asks you to cease hostilities you can no longer continue to hold an enemy under siege. You will be excommunicated. As I just found out the hard way

Still, thats a good change.

[Carl]

@Fenir & Sapi: .

[FactionHeir]

Since this topic is now for all patch 1.2 discussion I'll mention this. If the Pope asks you to cease hostilities you can no longer continue to hold an enemy under siege. You will be excommunicated. As I just found out the hard way

Still, thats a good change.

Was like that in 1.1 already. :p

Any news on the other two tests I was asking about? I mean you are bound to have killed at least 1 enemy army so far right? (for the display thing)

As for the experience bonus you got the buildings yet? :D

[Durallan]

Hey FactionHeir what were the other tests you wanted done?

EDIT: (instead of making ANOTHER post :P ;) )

I'm not too sure Sinan, thats what I thought too! for some people it seems not?

[FactionHeir]

Hey FactionHeir what were the other tests you wanted done?

Originally Posted by FactionHeir
Did CA fix the retraining bug? I.e. having buildings that give global or local boni to experience of units trained but units come out green? Its not in the patch readme, but I'd rather ask to make sure before reporting it again for the buglist.
You can try to see if it happens by having a building (i.e. jousting lists or barracks) which gives experience boni (to cav and armoured sergeants respectively) and train said units. Instead of ending turn when training, save and reload. Do not reset the queue after loading. Now end turn and see if the units are green or not. (ie. available for retraining)

Could you also check for the text "Your Forces Melt Away" and "Enemy Army Routs" whether the correct commander's name is being displayed? In 1.1 at least its always the wrong commander's name.

That :)

[Shahed]

I thought it was'nt like that in 1.10. If you already have a city under siege, can't you just hold the siege and if it's over and you get the city, the Pope seems ok about it.

[Quickening]

Was like that in 1.1 already. :p

Any news on the other two tests I was asking about? I mean you are bound to have killed at least 1 enemy army so far right? (for the display thing)

As for the experience bonus you got the buildings yet? :D

In 1.1 the Pope always let me maintain sieges on cities even if he warned me.

Well yeah Ive had tonnes of battles and the name has been correct so far but that doesn't really prove anything. Could be wrong next time.

Haven't had the chance to test the upgrade thing and to be honest I don't really understand it. Im sure Foz or someone could give you a much better writeup.

[FactionHeir]

In my 1.1 the pope never lets me maintain sieges, go figure :D

For the message, so if you defeat an enemy army and get the "enemy army routs" message, does it say your general's name or the enemy general's name right under the heading?

Retraining...did you ever train/retrain a unit in 1.2 and it ended up being retrainable the next turn again as the retrain seemed to do nothing?

[Quickening]

In my 1.1 the pope never lets me maintain sieges, go figure :D

Im becoming more and more convinced every day that there are about four differently programmed kinds of this game out there

For the message, so if you defeat an enemy army and get the "enemy army routs" message, does it say your general's name or the enemy general's name right under the heading?

I... I... don't know now. That isn't the kind of thing I would normally notice. But in my game so far the name has been correct. Does it get it wrong all the time normally?

Retraining...did you ever train/retrain a unit in 1.2 and it ended up being retrainable the next turn again as the retrain seemed to do nothing?

Nope. But then, I never did in 1.1 either as far as I know.

[FactionHeir]

Im becoming more and more convinced every day that there are about four differently programmed kinds of this game out there

Sometimes I think that too.

I... I... don't know now. That isn't the kind of thing I would normally notice. But in my game so far the name has been correct. Does it get it wrong all the time normally?

Always the same. So if it displays once correctly it always displays correctly. Just have a look next time you beat an army in the field (and the army is eliminated)

Nope. But then, I never did in 1.1 either as far as I know.

As you said at point 1 :p

[fenir]

fenir, you really are tempting me here, and if you weren't australian I'd be doing nasty things to you about now

Oh? Aus...Austr.....Australiand....Aus ..tra..li.... oh bugger...........GO THE ALLBLACKS! (got to love me?)

oooohh ...do the nasty ...do the nasty


fenir............

[fenir]

Woot 300 posts........

Oh, only took me almost 6 years.

[Colossus]

Does anyone know if the expansion includes 1.2?

@Alex the great, I agree with our friendly mod team, dont be mean to CA, say how RUBBISH gamespy are instead!!!!

[Lusted]

As posted by Caliban at TWC:

We are working to get the patch ready as soon as we can. We are focusing on AI and the top community bugs. We have already made some good progress and are looking into some issues further.
I'm sorry that some of you have a tainted view of CA (although you seem to like our games enough to still be here? , the reality is that we don't see the community as one entity nor do we pigeon hole them. There are trolls here just like every other net community, but there are also professionals as well. The constructive criticism we recieve far makes up for the abuse.

Please have patience, we aren’t sitting around playing grab ass or down the beach surfing. The Totalwar Engine is a massive behemoth of code, art and resources. One of our engine coders just gave me the source-code stats which is: 64mb of source-code in 4189 files that equals 1,655,906 lines of code.
It can take a long time to track some of these elusive bugs down; as you could imagine, the code-base is not a simple descr we can search through quickly.
There are lots of simple bugs that havn't been fixed because of the prioriety we work in. I can say that we will have a fix for the ballista-cannon tower problem in the coming update as well as the other major community bugs TWC and the ORG have been organising for us.

It will be out well before the expansion . As for an official date, It will be ready when it's ready.

[Puzz3D]

As posted by Caliban at TWC:

"It can take a long time to track some of these elusive bugs down; as you could imagine, the code-base is not a simple descr we can search through quickly."

That's what I was warning about. Bugs can also interact which complicates debugging. It gets to a point where taking more time in the beginning so that there are fewer bugs in v1.0 is more efficient.

[Quickening]

"we aren’t sitting around playing grab ass"

Someone must teach me this game.