M2TW rarities

[FactionHeir]

Post in this topic anything you observe and you found very rare. I.e. the AI doing something it never did before or you just seeing (or not seeing) something on the strat or battlemap.

My rarities: (Obviously only from not playing the faction in question myself)
- Sicilian diplomat. Never actually seen them build one. Only ever see princesses.
- Scottish princess. Never actually seen one ever. Do they even get any?
- English longbows. AI seems more interested in getting swordsmen and siege equipment...
- Scottish merchant. I think I've seen 1 or 2 ever.
- Assassins. In 1.0 they were abundant. In 1.1 there were less, in 1.2 the AI doesn't even bother getting them.

[Caliburn]

I just met a Scottish princess, who told me to keep my hands of her or something when I clicked her to see what kind of a strange creature it was. This is the only campaign I've met Scottish merchants as well, but that might be because I've never really gone as far West as to conquer any parts of Britain. They used to be my allies, perfect relations, but they did very foolishly and backstabbed me, so I had to take them out (if you really want that province, just ask!)... No Scots anymore, no princess either.

Yeah, no longbows. What is it with the siege engines TW AI's seem to love anyway? I remember the pope having maybe 10 trebuchets in his stack in the ole MTW most of the time, and I've met my share of gazillion-mortar-stacks in M2TW. I can't remember how it was in Rome, but it's beside the point anyway.

One rare thing I've seen only a few times is the enemy using Horse Archers aggressively by actively charging, retreating, skirmishing and doing other kind of stuff that Horse Archers are supposed to do. Recently they did, as I attacked one of my elite HA stacks that had gone rebel maybe 10 turns ago. They were against my Halberd Militia/Arquebus/Horse Archer stack, which got a bit messed up as I was doing other stuff at the same time (never a good idea while playing TW). It even felt like the AI was clever or something, though I know a lot of it was random effects of skirmishing. I was quite happy anyway, as my old elite cavalry just seemed to machine gun my militia down after charging the Arquebuses. My own loyal HA's naturally finished the enemy off...

[Henry the Fifth]

I've seen the Moors move all the way across the map in response to a Jihad and take Bagdad!

[Czar Alexsandr]

Lol I saw the Moors answer a call to Jihad for Jerusalem once. The Egyptian Iman called it and they must've wanted to take it since they attacked the Moor's in a yr or two. Wonder why they never answered the Jihad...

I've seen a Scottish Princess and Scottish merchants. In fact in my last Russia game Scotland took all of the English Isles. They also had merchants on every UK resource so they at least had a lot of Merchants.

In a earlier Russia game I saw Portugal take all of Iberia! Wipped out the Spanish and the Moors. (I believe France and Spain were fighting so Portugal hardly did it alone.)

I've seen plenty of assassians. Maybe your spies aren't very high or something cause the AI uses tons of spies and assassians against me.

And in my new game I saw something really odd... Denmark took Bruges and Antwerp! Lol. The AI seems to be afraid of thosse places. Anyways just some thing's I've noticed, been suprised at etc.

[Mr Frost]

I've seen a Scots Princess playing as Spain {not her playing as Spain of course , though that would be interesting to watch} .
In most of my games , the Danes always go for Bruges and Antwerp .
An unusual game would be where Denmark and Milan don't become superpowers . Yet to see that .

I've got a two turns per year Egyptian game where no crusades were called to the Middle East until after 1135 {that's 110 turns} whence every catholic and his dog showed up . I park a horse army my side of the Dardinells and Jihad Constantinople to block the other crossing , add a couple of fleets and the huge number of crusader stacks are now waiting for their generals to die of old age . Whilst the outcome is normal , the 110 turn wait was new {like waiting until 1300 in a vanilla game} .

[Durallan]

In my current Denmark campaign, when I reached turn 261, the Polish have been my allies for 250 turns. To celebrate I gave them 250k florins, so for the entire game since I originally allied with them, they have never once broken the alliance or done anything to backstab me. I've been playing this campaign with 1.1 and then the 1.2 leaked patch. Now that isn't half bad at all.

Milan didn't become a superpower in my game, it was a constant battle for the territories between all the factions in that area until they started declaring war on me and so I've now established some peace in the region.

Oh I also have 2 Vassals, Scotland and the Holy Roman Empire.

The next most powerful county in this game next to me is The Papal States, they even destroyed Venice! The Holy Roman Empire narrowly missed becoming a past relic itself but very smartly they decided to become a client kingdom of mine. (its scary seeing all the papal states full stack armies waltzing around)

The Portugese have backstabbed me no less than 5 times, that's even with a marriage alliance.

They also had 2 full stack armies outside marrakesh and sieged it, suffice to say I didn't win the battle.

The Papal States changed their capital to Florence, so Rome is no longer the capital, with a decent diplomat I had managed to groom, I bought Rome for about 100k florins!

I also saw a Scottish princess with the name Julian.

I'd probably have more if I could remember them.

Oh and I've managed to keep my king as the the left most character in the family tree, and I have managed to keep my family well bred and always managed to find a decent princess to marry the faction heir, to do this requires alot of planning, and alot of early and unfortunate deaths for kings that are in the way Aside from King Knud the starting king, all my kings have died in battle or died tragically


thats all I can think of for now.

[Calavera]

I've seen a Scots Princess playing as Spain {not her playing as Spain of course , though that would be interesting to watch} .
In most of my games , the Danes always go for Bruges and Antwerp .
An unusual game would be where Denmark and Milan don't become superpowers . Yet to see that .

In a game as the Scottish using the 1.02 patch, the Hungarians just took out the HRE and are in the process of kicking the crap out of the Danes. Milan is still around, but hasn't done much.

First time I've ever seen the Hungarians do anything. Usually they're just sort of... there.

[_Tristan_]

And in my new game I saw something really odd... Denmark took Bruges and Antwerp! Lol. The AI seems to be afraid of those places.

Exactly... In my Hungarian campaign, Antwerp is Scottish-owned but only after turn 40, having stayed rebel all the way...

Scottish merchants I've seen but not one Venetian nor any Moor merchant.

I've yet to see the Russians try to grab any rebel settlement from the steppes (Ryazan/Smolensk/Bulgar/Sarkel/Caffa)...

[Foz]

And in my new game I saw something really odd... Denmark took Bruges and Antwerp! Lol. The AI seems to be afraid of thosse places.

Shouldn't they be afraid? Whenever I play England, I'm afraid of Antwerp at least for a bit (since I have to focus on the British Isles first). IIRC they both get fairly nasty rebel garrisons.

Those settlements seem to get snagged in 1.2 all the time though, as do almost all rebel settlements. Certainly a lot faster than before, in general. It looks to me like the game more frequently gives out "take the rebel settlement" missions now, which probably accounts for the considerably better early-game expansion of the AI.

[_Tristan_]

Another rarity I've thought of : Guild missions... where are they ?

I know they exist but I've yet to see one in 2 campaigns when each time I had almost every single guild at one level or another...

Btw, it's on 1.1