Yeah but I only attacked them when the 3rd wave showed up. Until then I placed single stacks in strategic locations so they could not leave the valleys between Yerevan and Mosul. I placed 3 stacks at the pass south east of Yerevan, one to the east south east of Tbilisi, one on the bridge north of Mosul, and another one, I can't remember where I placed that one. I had about 8 stacks in total across Asia Minor, plus one all cavalry stack deployed west of Constantinople, to deal with any threat from there.
The 3rd wave arrived south of Baghdad in open desert and that was WAR ! I moved everything on them. I lost the 1st battle badly. Had no terrain advantage, all my troops were green, and I attacked a stack with all Mongols at +6 experience. 2nd battle was a heroic victory, one of mine vs 2 of theirs, but I had terrain advantage. It was in the valley just north of the Mosul Bridge. They could only attack from one direction through the pass and I got them there, absolute slaughter.
It's a good idea to have them show up earlier I think.
I've seen a lot of people say they are too tough so I wanted to post a thread saying, not really, at least in my experience.
With the Turks it was even easier to defeat them. I was hoping to meet them at Jerusalem in my current England campaign but now I'm working on a project so I don't know when I'll get back to that.
My Egyptian stacks looked like this:
1 Bodyguard
3 Desert cavalry or Mamluk Archers
4 Catapults
4 Desert Archers
4 Saracen Militia
4 Tabardariyya
As you can see this is total mincemeat for any human player who is playing the Mongols.
The problem I saw was they always used their ammo before charging, they were not usually aggressive enough. But when they were, wow, now THAT is what I call an ATTACK !
I LOVE the Mongol & Timurid invasions. They really make a great impact on the game.
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