Waiting for the Mongols ? in style ?

[Shahed]

Yesterday I rushed through an Egyptian campaign and I have to say the Mongols were a total non event.

Utterly smashed them, the economy was so strong they had no chance in heaven or earth. They were faster so they kept running away and they successfully took Antioch with like 4 stacks vs my one stack.

Nevertheless as soon as I thought all of them had arrived, I attacked them. That is, I declared on them. 4 turns later it was all over, I lost the Antioch stack (which was a garrison of 8 units) and one full stack of 20 units including General, annihilated.

It was fun though and I have to say the best battles were with the Mongols. It's BEAUTIFUL to watch the way those guys move around with all that cavalry, I LOVE it.

I was just browsing for some screenshots and I saw this. Thought it was worth posting. Looks a bit like my Egyptian campaign.

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Happy HUNTING !

[FactionHeir]

I think the screen roughly shows a similar scene to what happened to the Mongols in my Moorish and Danish campaign.
Maybe you should make the Mongols appear a bit earlier? :)

[Gaius Terentius Varro]

Ehmm... you do know that it's only the first wave? I thought i was finished then i got 3 waves of 5 stacks each about 15 turns apart ... each time the "faction destroyed" message lulling me back to sleep...

[Shahed]

Yeah but I only attacked them when the 3rd wave showed up. Until then I placed single stacks in strategic locations so they could not leave the valleys between Yerevan and Mosul. I placed 3 stacks at the pass south east of Yerevan, one to the east south east of Tbilisi, one on the bridge north of Mosul, and another one, I can't remember where I placed that one. I had about 8 stacks in total across Asia Minor, plus one all cavalry stack deployed west of Constantinople, to deal with any threat from there.

The 3rd wave arrived south of Baghdad in open desert and that was WAR ! I moved everything on them. I lost the 1st battle badly. Had no terrain advantage, all my troops were green, and I attacked a stack with all Mongols at +6 experience. 2nd battle was a heroic victory, one of mine vs 2 of theirs, but I had terrain advantage. It was in the valley just north of the Mosul Bridge. They could only attack from one direction through the pass and I got them there, absolute slaughter.

It's a good idea to have them show up earlier I think.

I've seen a lot of people say they are too tough so I wanted to post a thread saying, not really, at least in my experience.

With the Turks it was even easier to defeat them. I was hoping to meet them at Jerusalem in my current England campaign but now I'm working on a project so I don't know when I'll get back to that.

My Egyptian stacks looked like this:

1 Bodyguard
3 Desert cavalry or Mamluk Archers
4 Catapults
4 Desert Archers
4 Saracen Militia
4 Tabardariyya

As you can see this is total mincemeat for any human player who is playing the Mongols.

The problem I saw was they always used their ammo before charging, they were not usually aggressive enough. But when they were, wow, now THAT is what I call an ATTACK !

I LOVE the Mongol & Timurid invasions. They really make a great impact on the game.

[Gaius Terentius Varro]

I ve had a few real close victories against them as turks with like 20 or so JHI leftstanding from a whole stack, bless their 11 in morale.

[FactionHeir]

You can make the subsequent waves appear much earlier too, if you change the campaign_script file. Just need to edit the date values to a lower amount (I changed em to 2 so the reinforcements arrive 1 turn after the main stack). That way you have a proper mongol invasion.