KotR Out of Character Thread V

[FactionHeir]

Problem with making ME a new house is how you divide the family tree. If we had modded the campaign_db file from the get-go to make 5 branches max instead of the default 4, that would be possible now, but lacking that, not really.

While it would have been fun to see econ go dread, he doesn't have long enough to live to do much. Warluster is in a better position there.

Mongols will be a hotly debated topic in future diets, yes, but only if they don't become Mongol domesticus and stay passive. I wouldn't see much reason ICly for the HRE to declare war on the Mongols though to make them active. We also don't have many allies down in the ME that we could actively support.

All we can hope for right now is what I posted above in a mini paragraph. Those are the only real events that will spawn debate.

Oh, and helping Portugal is actually a fine idea StoneCold. Might give us something to do, although the prob is we don't really share any borders and have to walk through hostile territory for that (French and Spanish) and we don't have military access etc with them either. I think there will be some debate at the coming diet about the fate of Constantinople however, that Hans is about to start sieging at the end of Henry's term (the initial plan was to have it taken by the end of his term but troops were delayed...)

[GeneralHankerchief]

A couple of points:

- I am absolutely for everyone meeting at Diet sessions in person. As previously mentioned, it's more fun when you actually argue with a major character instead of his clerk.

- econ and FLYdude make a good point when it comes to pace. However, I don't think we should be blazing through two to three turns a day unless nothing happens, only movement.

- I suppose the only real way to get activity up in the Diet is, as already mentioned, to have a crisis. Preferably public. Speaking from experience, events you engineer are the most fun when the Diet's reaction is loud. I think we should work to always have us in some sort of trouble, then. That way we'll always have something to complain about.

[FactionHeir]

Hmmm I guess with 1.02, the AI keeping more or less to alliances and becoming more player friendly, we also have less events going on. Maybe they all ought to ally against us, although that would just end in slaughter...
Maybe something along the lines of what econ did in Wots by taking over Brutii and planning a massive invasion? I suppose that could be possible in M2TW as well....hmm...I'd actually say if we'd give the AI 20k a turn in the future (instead of 100k total or 10k per turn) we'd get even more challenging battles from those we are at war with. Maybe taking over some of our enemies for a turn to police their building could help too? On the other hand manipulating might also spoil the fun.

Well, here goes hoping a few players have an underground alliance and mess up the empire big time. Or maybe a renegade chancellor plunging us into a dilemma. Nothing like demolishing all churches and gifiting your lands to the nearest enemy :p
Oh wait, this is a PBM :D

[econ21]

On the Moors, we may have to wait a bit as the Portuguese made peace with them on the same turn as we did. They seem a little weak. I'll have to check who, if anyone, is fighting the Portuguese. Maybe the Spanish or someone would be a more worthy enemy. In the long run, we do want to have a western outpost for easy access to America. But we are still a long way off that event.

[StoneCold]

Stupid AI... At least we are no longer allied with the Moors.

[gibsonsg91921]

yeah it was my idea to attack the moors and spread our influence to help the portuguese

however, i think this should be another kingdom of iberia or something like that, or at least not just giving all territory to portuguese

but another kingdom would increase our reputation for helping portuguese, spread catholicism over the moors and yada yada yada

[FactionHeir]

Can't declare war with a diplomat, only with assassins and troops.

I think Moors or Iberia might be a better target in a few diets time. At the moment, Mongols might be the better target. I would prefer that we only declare on them if they attack an ally, but not for no reason. I guess we could invoke Heinrichan rules to attack Mongols if they trespass, but which noble who governs a province would be bold enough to do that?

[gibsonsg91921]

well if we attack the moors then we have interest in the west as well as the east, and we can slowly expand back into one unified empire

[FactionHeir]

How do you 'expand' into two different directions to become one 'unified' empire?

[StoneCold]

FH, regarding the Moors, we could go by sea and just hit the 1st Moor province we encountered?

Really wish the Mongols would be aggressive fast or else you guys will have too much time consolidating the Levant for them to pose much threat.... HAHAH... Can't you guys just sent a diplomat and declare war with them? :P