Plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix foiled

[Don Corleone]

Frankly, I'm a little surprised that by now, nobody has posted anything about this: Plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix. I guess nobody else knows what to make of it any more than I do.

It would appear that 3 ethnic Albanians, in the country illegally, a US citizen originally from Jordan and two other men, one possibly Turkish, were arrested for plotting to attack Fort Dix with assault rifles and shoot as many soldiers as they could, going out with guns blazing.

I usually get a little irritated when Tribesman implies this all fishy and the government knows fullly well that the accused are innocent. But in this case, it just might actually be the case. For one thing, it seems odd that the government let these guys go for as long and as far as they did without bringing them in. Second, the statements coming out of the White House, the FBI and local law enforcement don't seem to line up. The local law enforcement make it sound like they caught Bin Laden's 6 lieutenants, the White House took the unusual position that there's no reason to assume they have links to international terrorism, while the FBI is remaining strangely silent.

I've never known the administration to advocate the position that 6 accussed terrorists just might have been working independently. Is it just me, or does something seem odd here?

[drone]

I saw it earlier, but there just didn't seem to be much to discuss then. Not enough details. Can it be true that they were caught via good police work and a tip? I'd be curious to see if they rang any bells through the wiretapping program or other anti-terror security measures we have sacrificed liberty for. Maybe that's why the feds are quiet.

At least they targeted a military installation, which puts them slightly higher than the usual marketplace/suicide bomber scum in my book. Can't believe they were stupid enough to send a training tape to be burnt to DVD though. I figure most of those get watched by the processors, checking for homemade pr0n.

[Tribesman]

I usually get a little irritated when Tribesman implies this all fishy and the government knows fullly well that the accused are innocent.

Thats slanderous Don naughty boy

Is it just me, or does something seem odd here?

Perhaps due to their reputation for exageration and plain bullexcrement they are playing it clever for once .
You may have noticed with the British , when they go all out in the press and make a big scare story it often turns out to complete rubbish that ends in no convictions or even charges , when they keep it relatively quiet and have lengthy surveilance and sting operations they get results .
compare the ricin and new suicide vest cases with the fertiliser plot .

[HoreTore]

Targeting a military installation like this, wouldn't that be an act of war, not terrorism? It isn't done by a state, all right, but it isn't aimed at causing fear among a population(just an armed force) either, so it doesn't really qualify as terrorism either...

Guerrilla war, perhaps?

[Zaknafien]

well the 'great' police-work was a tip from the dvd-copier who turned in their amateur-jihad bible school training video they had wanted him to make copies of for promotional values. these guys are hacks, if anything.

Fortunately, this sheds light on how easy it is to target US military bases. Every installation I've ever lived on could be attacked at any time of day any day of the week. It'd be extremely easy to smuggle both men and arms onto the base and kill an entire barracks full of soldiers who would be defenseless.

This group had planned to masquarade as pizza delivery boys, which is pretty scary since they easily get on posts across the US every day with no checks.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Targeting a military installation like this, wouldn't that be an act of war, not terrorism? It isn't done by a state, all right, but it isn't aimed at causing fear among a population(just an armed force) either, so it doesn't really qualify as terrorism either...

Guerrilla war, perhaps?

Well, if the U.S. citizens were acting under the aegis of Al Qaeda, then it would come under the war on terror and they could be tried for treason. Since the feds are downplaying such a connection, we have home-grown terror warriors who'll need trials for conspiracy to commit etc.

The non-U.S. citizens had better hope for no connection to Al Qaeda for without such a connection they'll be tried as criminals. With such a connection they qualify as enemy agent saboteurs and qualify for summary execution.

Minimal honor points for trying to target the military as opposed to a shopping mall. Assess the usual point penalties for being terrorist scum and iredeemably stupid.

[gunslinger]

I've never known the administration to advocate the position that 6 accussed terrorists just might have been working independently. Is it just me, or does something seem odd here?

I remember one from a few months ago when the feds got an undercover into a group that was planning to blow up government buildings. I think the undercover actually convinced them that he had ties to O.B.L., and the official line was that they were just a bunch of morons who really had no clue what they were doing. They got charged anyway, though.

[Devastatin Dave]

It would appear that 3 ethnic Albanians,

Boy, did we pick the wrong side in that fight...

[Lemur]

What a bunch of maroons: ""We had a group that was forming a platoon to take on an army."

Maroons, I tell ya.

[ShadeHonestus]

What a bunch of maroons: ""We had a group that was forming a platoon to take on an army."

Maroons, I tell ya.

No doubt tortured into involvement in the plot by my fellow Marines at Gitmo.

I believe its Double Top Secret General Order Number 210.

[Lemur]

Torture is teh funny.

[ShadeHonestus]

Torture is teh funny.

Well its is all the rage in the funny papers.

[Major Robert Dump]

Boy, did we pick the wrong side in that fight...

hahahaha

[Major Robert Dump]

If they were watching them so closely anyway, I don't understand why they wouldn't wait until after the plotters actually had the weapons. Then you could really pile on the charges, and the case would seem a little more concrete.

Anyway, the plotter who was the pizza man worked for his dad. Talk about hurting sales.

[Odin]

Frankly, I'm a little surprised that by now, nobody has posted anything about this: Plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix. I guess nobody else knows what to make of it any more than I do.

It would appear that 3 ethnic Albanians, in the country illegally, a US citizen originally from Jordan and two other men, one possibly Turkish, were arrested for plotting to attack Fort Dix with assault rifles and shoot as many soldiers as they could, going out with guns blazing.

I've never known the administration to advocate the position that 6 accussed terrorists just might have been working independently. Is it just me, or does something seem odd here?

I was going to post this yesterday afternoon but decided not to waste my time.

2 things spring to mind don, one fishy one an observation. Congress is about to discuss immigration again, the bust happens now on what appears on the surface to be a hack job, I mean from what we have so far this dosent look like a real professional job. The timing of the arrests are fishy to me.

Immigration, I believe 3 of these clowns are here illegally, 2 others on a green card? What a great way to set off the debate for immigration, examples like these are a shinning example of why we need immigration reform in a big way.