KotR Out of character thread VI

[econ21]

Econ, so Henry survived?

Yes, but his army did not.

Battle report is up.

[StoneCold]

Wow...

Econ, you seems to have miss putting up the butcher's bill. But even from the last pic, I can see your troops are almost gone.

[econ21]

Good catch - I've just posted the butcher's bill.

I've never fought Mongols before in M2TW. Originally, just after the last Diet, I had thought I could attack two Mongol stacks and win. Now that would have been a sure fire way to go out in style (or ignomy, running from the battle screaming like a girl...).

[GeneralHankerchief]

econ, do you mind if I use Kurt in a quick story? Nothing bad will happen to him/I won't do anything with him that you disapprove of.

[econ21]

Sure, GH - go ahead.

[StoneCold]

haha, you are brave, econ... :).

Looks like the only thing that is intact in your army is the crossbowmen, are they in loose formation during the artillery duel? They definitely need to be replenished again with spears and calvary before they can be a effective force again.

[econ21]

No, I kept the crossbows in close formation - I had six in a line, so screening them was a problem even then. And I figured close might deal better with any Mongols who got past the front line. Plus, loose formations sometimes don't seem to skirmish quickly enough and get caught.

As it happened, the normal Mongol horse archers played nice and just stayed back, shooting. By contrast, the heavy archers walked right up to the crossbows at the beginning and then charged, while Bayan was just jaw-dropping. I doubt the crossbowmen lost many to enemy fire - I rather suspect the horse archers preferred to rip up the closerby melee infantry and cavalry I had.

[StoneCold]

The Steffen family looks like blessed with genuis commanders... :P

Any idea where are the other Nations of the Crusades?

[AussieGiant]

I'm lovin it ECON!!

Excellent stuff.

I'm sure Ituralde is checking he has everything correctly placed in his trouser's, before sticking himself in the mongol horde back yard!! lol!

Still, armies can be replenished, commanders can't. You got rid of one of their top line generals...there's only 4 more to go!!

Ituralde, you're up!!

[StoneCold]

Ituralde, Fredericus is not young... :P he is only 5 years Leopold's junior.. :P

[Ituralde]

Everybody who's younger than him, is young...

[StoneCold]

hahah... but he is a balding white hair dude now just like your avatar...

[FactionHeir]

Great read econ. Looks like you had some very intense battle. Hope the many pavise were worth it :)

[FactionHeir]

Chancellor's report for 1227 and 1228 are now up to date with previously hidden information.

Also, forgot to mention, but we can hire Gothic Knights at Sofia. While this may be a wow-factor, ever since 1.02 and shield fix, they aren't all that great anymore.

[TinCow]

Just to reinforce my previous statement, I will be playing my battle when I get home tonight, about 6:30pm EST.

[Stuperman]

Wow, nice job econ, and good luck TC

I auto-resolved the battle the other day (loaded the Assult in durazzo save) and won so I wasn't too worried. But still you Anihilated thier army, only several more to go. ~:D

[Kagemusha]

Great battle Econ! It seems that soon there will be lots of action in the outremer thanks to our Mongol friends.

[TinCow]

I'm right in thinking there are multiple waves (3?) of Mongol stacks, right? It's not over when these 5 are defeated, is it?

[econ21]

I heard there are three waves, with the second the largest. I've never experienced it though and don't know if the later waves will appear at Baghdad as the first wave fortuitously did. (In another run through of this PBM, the first wave turned up faraway in south Russia (Yerevan?) which would have been a major disappointment.)

[FactionHeir]

Yerevan is still in ME, just under Sarkel mountains.

There are 3 waves. The later waves featured even tougher generals and rocket launchers. Takes a long while to get them to appear though. They appear at the same point where the first wave did.

[econ21]

OK, looking at the Citadel FAQ, I guess I meant north of the Caspian sea rather than Yerevan. They really were far, far away from us and spawning there would have been a major disappointment as we would have had virtually no interaction with them. I did not do any reloading to get them close to us, but am happy they came where they did.

I've updated the FAQ to say waves 2 and 3 appear where wave 1 came.

[Kagemusha]

Yep FactionHeir is right.The rest are coming your way also. Im looking forward to Ituraldes assault against the Mongols. With even victorious battles with about 50/50 casulties the Crusader Kindom could be in lot of trouble,specially if the Egyptians and Turks chip in also.

[AussieGiant]

Well that's some pretty imposing news.

3 waves hey. It's going to be decades of high intensity war down there.

[Stuperman]

There are 3 waves. The later waves featured even tougher generals and rocket launchers.

Mongols flying Apaches? sounds like fun.

[TinCow]

Well that's some pretty imposing news.

3 waves hey. It's going to be decades of high intensity war down there.

And then the Timurids after that, and they're even worse.

[StoneCold]

Well, if the appear in Russia, the HRE mainland will see the hordes instead of in th Outremer, Franconians and Austrians will see some serious actions if that is the case, with the poles and huns probably wiped out.

[StoneCold]

And then the plague just when you need your economy the most. :D

[FactionHeir]

Btw, I forgot to mention it before.
In a few of my reports you can see mentions of Adolf der Bartige doing some hidden stuff.
Well, he finished what he was doing: spy on Jobst and his army and spy the Danish survivors as well as the battle ground.

If anyone together with Warluster or just on their own wants to write the alternative more or less true and complete story on what happened with the Danes, feel free to.

[Stuperman]

Hey

What ever happened to the investigation into the 'event' that lead to our current war with the danes?

is it just being written off OOC as game mechanics, and mostly ignored IC
or what?

[FactionHeir]

See my post above.

Also, I have dug a bit through the file and noticed that Sane is an AntiTrait to Hypochonndriac, so if you stay in a settlement with a church for any amount of time you can become Sane. Also finishing church buildings gives a Sane boost. Maybe there is yet hope for Steffen :p