What triggers an army rebellion?

**DVX BELLORVM** · 06-03-2007, 11:47

I just had a rebellion of almost full stack army besieging mongol city, led by a captain.

What triggers this? An action of enemy diplomats (I scanned the area with my spies, didn't find any), or is it just random?
Does the size of an army makes any difference?

What can I do to prevent this? I've read in the FAQ that a spy or assassin can help. I know that having a general helps, but you can't have them everywhere...

**FactionHeir** · 06-03-2007, 12:03

Captainled armies have quite a low loyalty as opposed to general led armies.
There are several factors, such as being in a rebel province, having a rebel province nearby, having low loyalty, having a leader with low authority....and a fair bit of random chance.
Army size plays no role in that from what I can tell.

**Zarky** · 06-03-2007, 12:10

Depends on Neighboring regions (rebel or own), region where you are (hostile or friendly) and kings Authority (weird thing i had guy with -6 Authority and when he got to be sultan he had full ^^) So using captains over hostile lands with low authority king is rather risky, and anyways against mongols you should use generals if you wish to autoresolve rather than fight by yourself.

**Flavius Merobaudes** · 06-03-2007, 12:54

Interesting question. I'd like to have a research area for M2 just like the ludus magna in the RTW section of this forum. They also have a thread about rebels and what causes them to appear over there. I'm not sure but anyway I assume very few has changed since then.

**DVX BELLORVM** · 06-03-2007, 13:11

So this must be due to the influence of neighboring rebel provinces, there are plenty of them around since the Timurid hordes passes through this area.

My king has rather high authority, so that is not an issue. I wonder if the distance from the king has any influence on a chance of rebellion. I think the distance from the capital does...

Anyway, I already send an army to hunt down the rebellious dog, pity because they were elite troups, veterans from many battles. They did have a general, but he got assassinated and the replacement was on his way...

EDIT:
Flavius Merobaudes, it is a good idea. I also think that the mechanics of a rebellion changed since RTW, as I don't think I had as many rebellions as in M2TW

**FactionHeir** · 06-03-2007, 13:24

Normally you cannot bribe back troops that rebelled against you (you can bribe troops that rebel against another faction though). Not sure if that changes if you assassinate the current rebel leader though. Might be worth a try if it was veterans.

**DVX BELLORVM** · 06-03-2007, 13:39

Originally Posted by FactionHeir

Normally you cannot bribe back troops that rebelled against you (you can bribe troops that rebel against another faction though). Not sure if that changes if you assassinate the current rebel leader though. Might be worth a try if it was veterans.

I'm afraid it's too late for that

Good idea, though, i'll try it next time.