Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
No country in the world has ever ratified the UN declaration on human rights, as it doesn't need that. It is universal, and not only applies to every single state in the world, it also, and even more so, applies to EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET. You may argue that US law says otherwise, however, those in gitmo will still have the protection of the human rights. It's quite simply untouchable. It cannot be altered, it cannot be broken. Not in any case whatsoever.
That is a very, very strong claim. Are you willing to stand behind it? Every single state, every single human being, untouchable, unalterable, period. Where does this declaration get such immense weight behind it that it can never be changed by any body ever, including the body that penned it? Is it a perfect document? What is its claim to universal authority through not only space, but also time? This sounds like the kind of faith placed in religious convictions, not those of secular humanism and law.

Also, you seem to only argue on the legal issue,
That's because he is a lawyer. He asked you specifically if you were making a legal argument to determine whether he should argue with you on legal grounds. You refused to answer the question but continued to argue in a legal fashion, so he responded in kind. If you change your argument from a legal one to something else, such as DC's moral argument, then you may be able to make some headway, but arguing Law with Pindar is like arguing astrophysics with Hawking. You're going to have a hard time coming out on top.

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