Lose horses, and your morale!

**FactionHeir** · 06-06-2007, 12:50

Whether this attribute displays is subject to the numerical value for morale in the EDU.
Most knights have 9. Dismounted Imperials have 5 for some reason or another.

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As to why that is so, I'm not sure, but if you look at the other primary mace wiedling dismounted knight, it also has 5. Admittedly Dismounted Mercenary German Knights are not implemented for anything but slave and I have never seem them in a rebel stack.

**MichelRensen** · 06-06-2007, 12:59

The only logic reason I can think up for this is the following:

When you're on a horse, you're looking down on your adversaries. You are probably on an armoured horse, which is a bit like a tank, or maybe an armoured jeep. You have a long spear that can impale people. You can charge at your opponents and deal crushing blows that way.

As opposed to:

When you're on foot, you're much closer to the ground. You feel small, vulnerable, ESPECIALLY against all those other knights who are on horses! All you have is a sword, and a shield if you're lucky. Your armour may protect you from some blows, but it is also heavy, and you don't have a horse to carry it around for you. A charge tires you and you find yourself in the middle of the action without any way to get out.

Wouldn't you run?

Anyway, that's MY logic.

**FactionHeir** · 06-06-2007, 13:03

Wouldn't explain why its only those two dismounted knight units suffering from it, unless they hate using their maces.

**MichelRensen** · 06-06-2007, 13:07

Maybe they just like the feel of a horse under them and they feel naked without it? Their maces just don't give the comforts a horse's back can give...

Probably it hasn't really got a reason though... If they are the only knights who suffer from a drop in morale once you take their horses I assume it's just, well... a mistake.

**Fußball** · 06-06-2007, 13:10

It is either another stroke of illogical CA logic and not added or it was mistakingly left out for dismounted Imperial/German knights. It seems as if I should simply unpack and begin editing the files and modding M2 because so many of these blunders are making the game nigh unplayable.

Tschüß!
Erich

**Lusted** · 06-06-2007, 13:19

Well the low morale for DIK seems to be intentional or at least i think it is. DIK seem to have lower stats than DCK/AS/NS for a reason, probably to show the lack of really high quality late era infantry for HRE.

**FactionHeir** · 06-06-2007, 13:23

They are almost as expensive as DFK though, which makes them redundant.

**Lusted** · 06-06-2007, 13:25

Not really, the mace with ap makes them pretty useful in melee against heavily armoured opponentsd.

**Fußball** · 06-06-2007, 13:32

It would make sense that that was what was in mind had they given mounted Imperial/German knights the lose of morale but they didn't. And on terms of lower stats, this is true but all knights should have good morale, Imperial/German knights being of no exception. I would rather enjoy using Imperial knights a bit more often than outdated DFK which have stats which can ride you through the game anyway...

Agreed with you Lusted on the mace, which is AP, being very good against armored infantry. It almost seemingly gives them the ability to mow through anything armored but Imperial knights will not hold up as long in a fight as other knights. Which is both absurd and leaves them lacking in the long run.

Tschüß!
Erich