In that case there is a definate gliche in my game. As you can see the diplomatic report clearly states France and HRE. But the faction overview shows HRE as a vassal of Denmark.Originally Posted by Ciaran
I'm surprised that vassals can have their own allies and enemies, I would have thought that their overlord would more or less have dictated their foriegn policy. I imagine that could lead to some interesting situations.
Having said that I'm surprised at how little conformance there is between allied factions in the game so it probably related.
That doesn't seem any different to declaring war of allies then. So, assuming that the faction overview is the accurate record. I could attack the HRE without automatically triggering a war with Denmark, but presumably if I attacked Denmark I am likely to find that it is calling on the resources (if not the armies) of the HRE for additional support.Originally Posted by Ciaran
I'm not familiar with the term 'shadow faction' but I assume this is some background classification assigned to factions that are pre-set elimination targets for another faction in the short campaign victory conditions e.g. England v France, Scotland v England, Turkey v Byzantine etc.Originally Posted by FactionHeir
Interesting, so on that basis then, if you want to keep your existing ally you need to be sure that you have a better relationship with them than any other faction which is not allied to it?Originally Posted by FactionHeir
Or is that test only triggered by a situation which requires the faction to make a choice between you or another.
So, playing Scotland, I physically have to eliminate England. Making them a vassal state would effectively lose me the game, but I would never be able to anyway becuase they are a 'Shadow Faction' for Scotland.Originally Posted by DVX BELLORVM
However, I could force France to become my protectorate and if France had 5 provinces, then those five provinces would count towards the 15 I need to win the game.
Beyond that vassals basically work like permanent alliances in terms of diplomacy and relationship.
I think that makes sense, have I got it right?
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