Is anyone tired of constant war?

**fatsweets** · 06-23-2007, 05:52

Has anyone heard of battle fatigue? I have currently been at war with the seleucids in my Ptolemai campaign for 46 years. I am f****** tired of constant war! Is there anything we can do with diplomacy? I'm pretty sure there is nothing we can do, but I am so f****** frustrated! I now have the carthaginians coming from the west and the green f****** west of the Macedonians, that means 3 ememies who are attacking me constantly. I am so tired of constant war! I am sure there is others who feel the same way. Please respond with your personal viewpoints, and I'm sure there will be many.

**bovi** · 06-23-2007, 05:58

There are unofficial mods that try to balance this, check the various money scripts. Also, you can use the force diplomacy mod to make peace (although I can't see why they would really let up now that they're three to one).

**PenguinLobster** · 06-23-2007, 06:01

Its annoying being constantly attacked by anyone you share a border with. Seems they called the series Total War for a reason.

**stupac** · 06-23-2007, 06:28

Sometimes I feel the same way, I'm so tired of fighting seleukid stacks myself in my Baktria campaign. It wouldn't be so bad if they would stop spamming weak cannon fodder units.

**kalkwerk** · 06-23-2007, 06:32

auto_win

**fatsweets** · 06-23-2007, 06:41

Explain auto_win, I know it is a cheat but explain your reasoning? I don't like to cheat to win.

**bovi** · 06-23-2007, 06:56

"auto_win attacker" if you are attacking, "auto_win defender" if you are defending. It's not cheating if you know you're going to clearly win on the battle map, in fact you'll likely lose more men using auto_win.

**Gizmo04** · 06-23-2007, 16:10

I have a problem with the provincial campiagn, what is up with that? Its blank!

I have to admit, if your army is constantly being engaged they would be fatigued into the next fight, that is something modders may consider for the next update, I don't know but I hope they do!

**Principe Alessandro** · 06-23-2007, 17:37

In my Koinon Hellenon campaign I haven't this situation, yes in one turn I had Macedonia, Seleukia and Ptolemy enemy but with some turns the invasions finished because Macedon face also Epiro and Seleukia declare war to Ptolemy and for this reason ask the peace, and in case of Macedonia after many years of neutrality I declare war against Macedonia and take Pella and from Seleukia I take Sardis before the peace and I was in peace from decades of turns from the ceasefire and also I made an Anti-Ptolemy alliance!!!!!!!!!!!

I have also Reign of Ares and Money fix installed and use BI.exe

**Warmaster Horus** · 06-23-2007, 17:46

May I remind people that EB is a mod of RTW. And that AI Diplomacy is hard coded. Meaning the team can't do anything against stupid decisions of the AI, diplomacy wise. I often play with the Romani, and several times have destroyed Epeiros completely at the start - uniting Italy, then conquering Illirya. Those times, I have allied with Makedon. Guess what they do, once Epeiros is destroyed, even though they are at war with the KH, the Getai, Pontus, whoever? They betray ME. The AI is stupid, at least diplomacy wise.

Another time, I was playing more historically with Rome, and the Koinon Hellenon suddenly decided to get Southern Italy from me. Despite the fact that they were still at war with Makedon, and that I hadn't offended them at all.

On the subject of auto-win, I don't always think of it as cheating. When facing endless stacks, I use it, because my computer takes five to ten minutes to load a battle. Hey, my laptop is 3 years old! It's hard work, even on low/medium settings.
auto_win is good, if you pace yourself. And I don't think it's required, if you use one of the various money scripts.

**The Errant** · 06-23-2007, 17:48

You seriously need to take a look at the altered money script and merc. file minimods. They AI becomes a lot more tolerable when you don't have to fight 8 stacks a turn. Plus having them send "Stack Parades" against you is not realistic on any level.

Money scripts:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=83349

Altered merc. file:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=85790

**Magister Militum Titus Pullo** · 06-23-2007, 17:57

Originally Posted by fatsweets

Has anyone heard of battle fatigue? I have currently been at war with the seleucids in my Ptolemai campaign for 46 years. I am f****** tired of constant war! Is there anything we can do with diplomacy? I'm pretty sure there is nothing we can do, but I am so f****** frustrated! I now have the carthaginians coming from the west and the green f****** west of the Macedonians, that means 3 ememies who are attacking me constantly. I am so tired of constant war! I am sure there is others who feel the same way. Please respond with your personal viewpoints, and I'm sure there will be many.

I do sympathize in a way. I have saved games as both the Averni and the Ptolemaoi, and the arch enemy in both are the Seleucid Empire (although I am playing as the Seleucids in a third one). Especially with factions where you're expecting a major military reform years from now, and you don't want to annihilate the competition before you can field the more advanced troops, and yet the opposition is just provoking you to conquer them, its a pain in the arse isn't it?