King of the Romans OOC thread VIII

**TinCow** · 06-26-2007, 20:10

I haven't looked at the save myself, but I have noticed in other games (PBM and SP) that sometimes a save loads up with cities on automanage even when they weren't when the game was saved. From experience, this seems to be due to patching/modding differences between the game version that saved it and the game version that loaded it.

Just speculation, of course. FactionHeir can probably shed more light on the matter.

**econ21** · 06-26-2007, 20:23

I was surprised by the automanaging too. It leads to some poor outcomes - IIRC, if you end the turn, Aleppo, with its military build automanage, will crank out 3 Dismounted Imperial Knights - which are inferior to DFKs (and neither a priority for fighting Mongols).

Originally Posted by Stig

Igno?

Could you atleast upload the save, that only takes 30 seconds

Seconded.

**FactionHeir** · 06-26-2007, 20:23

I wouldn't know why really, in terms of automanage. If TC is right though, the most likely cuplrit file for that would be the buildings files (export_descr_building) that differs between players, so it would be prudent to check whether you currently have said file in your data folder while loading up the save game or not. I'm guessing it might be due to something else though.

So far, I haven't seen any automanage in the other savegames I got from people except one from TC (where Paris was on automanage) and Ignoramus, where half the empire is on automanage.

**TinCow** · 06-26-2007, 20:35

Paris was on after one of my saves? I know I've been negligent in installing the VnV patch for a few of the Library updates, but I make sure to get the right one before fighting any battles. Hmm....

**FactionHeir** · 06-26-2007, 20:38

The save where you fought at Zagreb was fine, but the one after you took out the army near Budapest had the problem. Didn't think much of it though, as everything else was in order after checking.

I'd be surprised if not installing the vnvs properly would cause this, but can't hurt to confirm with Ignoramus whether he is using it/has it properly installed.
So: Ignoramus

**TinCow** · 06-26-2007, 20:59

Was there a VnV update between the time when I fought those two battles?

**FactionHeir** · 06-26-2007, 21:02

Nope, last update was before my chancellorship.
I'm currently thinking whether there is anything left that needs fixing without going too far away from vanilla traits and ancs.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 06-26-2007, 21:10

Could it have anything to do with one player (the majority of us) turning off automanaging via Game Options and another (Ignoramus) leaving it on?

Also, off-topic, but I'm playing a game as Venice and I see good old Otto von Kassel as a lone unit in my territory - but he's the Milanese faction heir!

Still deciding what to do with him.

**Cecil XIX** · 06-28-2007, 05:01

Originally Posted by FactionHeir

Nope, last update was before my chancellorship.
I'm currently thinking whether there is anything left that needs fixing without going too far away from vanilla traits and ancs.

This is just a thought, but is it possible make certain acillaries requirements for certain traits?

If it is, then you could create a Count/Duke ancillary that would allow us to get traits without having to actually be in the settlement, making our avatars the governor of a settlement both in the game and the PBEM. There could even be a 'Chancellor' ancillary that would avoid the problem of certain Emperors taking the blame for the assassination that certain Chancellors order. *wink wink*.

If it isn't, then forget I said anything.