Seems like the 360 is a stinker.

[Fragony]

http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=1143

Also had a ring of death, xbox360 has severe hardware reliability issues. Well that was already known, but I didn't realise it was this bad. To make it worse, it only uses one core now and it overheats, wait untill the more demanding games come, thing is a timebomb. Thinking of selling my 360 and getting a ps3 instead.

[Mikeus Caesar]

http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=1143

Also had a ring of death, xbox360 has severe hardware reliability issues. Well that was already known, but I didn't realise it was this bad. To make it worse, it only uses one core now and it overheats, wait untill the more demanding games come, thing is a timebomb. Thinking of selling my 360 and getting a ps3 instead.

Swap one very crummy plastic box for a slightly less crummy one?

Silly boy.

Buy a Wii.

[Fragony]

Already got a Wii, probably the main reason my 360 still works, hardy play on the noisy pos, currently collecting dust on the shelve

[Mikeus Caesar]

Already got a Wii, probably the main reason my 360 still works, hardy play on the noisy pos, currently collecting dust on the shelve

Why not send your noisy pos my way? I'd be more than happy to play it until it explodes, nevermind burn out.

I have to say, out of the big 3, Wii seems to have come off best. With the exception of people accidentally throwing the 'Wiimote' at TV's, there don't seem to be any problems with it. It's cheap, reliable and good fun.

[drone]

If you like to mess around:
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=OTM5
Makes it cool and quiet.

[doc_bean]

I've read about PS3 failures too.

[Kekvit Irae]

Swap one very crummy plastic box for an even worse one?

Fixed. 600 dollars for a Blu-Ray player with only one great game? Sounds like the CD-i all over again.

There are great games for the 360. Gears of War is one of them. Seems like the only thing the Wii is good for is producing games that are tech demos for the wiimote or party games. While fun for awhile, they soon lose their novelty.

I sold my Wii for a 360, and I couldn't be happier. And my 360 has yet to malfunction.

[Fragony]

There are great games for the 360. Gears of War is one of them. Seems like the only thing the Wii is good for is producing games that are tech demos for the wiimote or party games. While fun for awhile, they soon lose their novelty.

Took them long enough to release good games on it, now it indeed has a great library. Takes some time, same with the Wii, the killer games like Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 (and hopefully Manhunt 2) have yet to appear, now we have mostly poor ports from ps2 titles. Wii will have impressive graphics and the wiimote will advance gaming

[TB666]

Well I just ordered a 360 and hopefully should have it in a few days.
Most people that I have talked to that have it aren't having any issues with it.

[Xiahou]

Took them long enough to release good games on it, now it indeed has a great library. Takes some time, same with the Wii, the killer games like Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 (and hopefully Manhunt 2) have yet to appear, now we have mostly poor ports from ps2 titles. Wii will have impressive graphics and the wiimote will advance gaming

I make the DS comparison. That is, when it first came out, most games were glorified tech demos for the touch screen. I don't remember how long it took anymore, but it was quite awhile before any truly great games came out for the system. Now, the DS has a solid library of really good games.

I had hoped Nintendo would learn from the DS launch and improve things for the Wii launch. And in a way, they have- there's at least a handful of must-haves for the Wii available now, but the real blockbusters are yet to come. They will come though, the huge numbers of consoles the Wii is selling alone is enough to dictate that it will get good games.

[frogbeastegg]

I want: Blue Dragon, Viva Pianta, Prince of Persia Classic, Castlevania, and maybe Band of Bugs if it's as amusing as it sounds.

I don't want: The sound of a jet plane and red lights as soon as the warranty expires.

Redesign the thing so it's quiet and functional and I'll probably hop for it at some point. Otherwise, no way.

The breakage issue is made worse by M$ trampling all over EU and UK consumer rights, and forcing people to pay £80 to have their defective consoles repaired. When talking of expensive games consoles the "reasonable period of time" quoted in the law is years, not a single year. Furthermore the problem with the consoles strongly appears to be the shoddy construction and cheap materials they are made from, making M$ doubly liable.

[Kekvit Irae]

Took them long enough to release good games on it, now it indeed has a great library. Takes some time, same with the Wii, the killer games like Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 (and hopefully Manhunt 2) have yet to appear, now we have mostly poor ports from ps2 titles. Wii will have impressive graphics and the wiimote will advance gaming

Manhunt 2 has been indefinitely shelved due to their AO rating. If (a big if) it will come out with an M rating, it certainly wont be this year.

[Fragony]

Manhunt 2 has been indefinitely shelved due to their AO rating. If (a big if) it will come out with an M rating, it certainly wont be this year.

We don't have such a rating here, it can be released here without any problems., probably will

[lars573]

http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=1143

Also had a ring of death, xbox360 has severe hardware reliability issues. Well that was already known, but I didn't realise it was this bad. To make it worse, it only uses one core now and it overheats, wait untill the more demanding games come, thing is a timebomb. Thinking of selling my 360 and getting a ps3 instead.

From what I've heard the 360's failure rate has gone down. M$ has been tweaking the production process to get it down. That said the PS2 also had a large failure rate. The thing just needs lots of ventilation. If you treat it like a PC you should be fine.

[John86]

Mine brokedown two days ago. ONE WEEK AFTER MY WARRANTY IS UP. I swear, this stuff is planned.

[Azi Tohak]

I haven't heard anything about reliability problems recently in the states. Maybe it has been fixed... maybe Mr. Gates used his Ninjas to kill all those who dared question his [edit] ... [edit].

Ahem... now that I'm back from [edit] ... [edit].

Back again.

Anyway, I was very unimpressed with it to begin with. Looking back at the start of the PS2, I'm sure I would have thought the same (but all I played was my N64). However, with Obilivion already out (not my style, but by all accounts a great game), some lame FPS, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, BioShock, DMC 4, RE5, XBLA and ... that other Mistwalker game coming, I'm sure to buy one once I return to civilization (e.g. the USA).

To me, the big flop is the PS3. One decent game (wow! another shooter! It's not like we don't already have thousands of them to play!) and it costs more than a camel. Sony should start over again. (Then there is the PSP... blech.)

Azi

[Bob the Insane]

A little OT - I got The Darkness the other night... Looks fantastic... Very "next gen"...

[Leet Eriksson]

owning all 3 consoles, i have never had any problems with them as of yet.

I also suggest against trading your 360 for a ps3, its not like the PS3 has any remarkable games on shelves right now, might wanna wait a bit before you do that.

[Kekvit Irae]

I also suggest against trading your 360 for a ps3, its not like the PS3 has any remarkable games on shelves right now, might wanna wait a bit before you do that.

I second this. Except for Resistance: Fall Of Man and Virtua Fighter 5, there are no great (or even remotely good) games for the 600 dollar Blu-Ray player. Hopefully the upcoming releases such as Lair will change that.

[Bob the Insane]

Well, if my 360 starts acting up at least I know it should be fixed for free now (or near enough)... Still annoying though if it should happen...

Continuing the whole consoles debate, what does everyone make of this new article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...24355620070710

[Fragony]

owning all 3 consoles, i have never had any problems with them as of yet.

I also suggest against trading your 360 for a ps3, its not like the PS3 has any remarkable games on shelves right now, might wanna wait a bit before you do that.

Oh aren't you the Pasha

Not worried about the PS3, it has few games but in a year or two the 360 is a poor man's pc and the PS3 a real console. Going to wait for the price to drop, PS3 gets almost every game that's released on the 360 and has a few exclusives of it's own, and it's a much better looking machine, and most importantly it's silent and it stays cool. 360 is such an ugly machine, need some looks next to my way to awesome beovision.

[Fragony]

Ahum!! Killzone 2 trailer. Unbelievable.

http://www.gamert.nl/specials/e3_kil..._trailert.html

[Leet Eriksson]

Oh aren't you the Pasha

Not worried about the PS3, it has few games but in a year or two the 360 is a poor man's pc and the PS3 a real console. Going to wait for the price to drop, PS3 gets almost every game that's released on the 360 and has a few exclusives of it's own, and it's a much better looking machine, and most importantly it's silent and it stays cool. 360 is such an ugly machine, need some looks next to my way to awesome beovision.

Actually the ps3 may be silent, but it takes more power, make sure it is also on a cool surface (like marble), i had it on a wooden table before and it left a nasty mark on it due to its heating problems (also games seem to crash for no reason when it heats up). I had no problems when i put it on the ground though.

It may be just my environment (which is generally hot when the AC is not on ) but that thing is pretty power hungry. On another note, i also discovered the 360 needs to be standing vertically if you ever want to avoid its hardware problems, so yeah

Last but not least, the PS3 has an inferior texturing power, so its kinda a bit more crappy compared to the xbox 360 graphically. I'm sure graphics doesn't matter for you though, the PS3 has alot of potential and this E3 excited me alot more but i still suggest you keep the 360 for a long while before you decide to trade.

[Mikeus Caesar]

Then there is the PSP... blech

The PSP isn't terrible, i have quite a few friends who own one and don't regret, but i don't recall them ever using it to play games. Mainly use it as a glorified MP3 player.

[Fragony]

PSP is a terrific handheld, shame you can't really use it as a handheld because of the battery's. But unlike the popular misconception the PSP has loads of great games. It's a portable ps2, awesome. It has a great screen, and fantastic sound. If you want only one handheld go for the DS, but the PSP sure ain't a stinker.

[Marius Dynamite]

Once, years ago when the Pentium II was current. It overheated repeatly because the [nastiest words you know] who fitted the processor didn't put a heatsink or fan on it. He also stuck in a celeron instead of my nice Pentium II.

Usually every year, around summer. A fresh coating of thermal grease and the removal of dust in the fans keeps everything in working order for me.

I've told that story before but I fried a brand new Athlon 1400 because I forgot to remove the plastic cover under the cooler....didn't even get into the BIOS.
(yeah, it's funny now, was quite the investment back then )
Apart from that, no.

It a relief to know my PC is not the only one. I've had non-stop problems with my computer, which is about 2.5 - 3 years old now. The first year it must have broke down 4 times with 4 new fans being put in, then 4 new disk drives, twice because the lazer buggered up and twice because the heat cracked a disk and it exploded inside the drive, and you can guess what disk it was, thats right, Rome:Total war then Rome:Total War Eras both RIP so Im now on my third RomeTW.

Basically the computer cloggs with dust which heats it up and breaks the fan, which gets as loud as a hoover (or vacuum cleaner) because it works so hard to keep it cool. Only after 4 new fans did someone notice the switch which makes the fan 'work better' when the drives heat up was off.

So anyway now we clean it every 3-4 weeks whenever it starts to get loud.

[Zatoichi]

Wow! That's some real bad luck!

I guess I've been real lucky, I've had pretty much 25 years with no over heating issues with any PC or consoles!

I guess living in cold old England has some advantages after all!