Current test to see what happens if you don't intervien ANYWHERE.

[Budwise]

It is common knowledge that nobody attacks the Aztecs but you, but playing as them in the Custom Campaign Mod I am trying to see who will come out on top without human interference.

I forgot what button does screenshots so can someone refresh me so I can post some but so far my conclusions are of the following.

After 80 turns - Britain, France, Poland, and a few others don't really do much. They build huge armies and have border scirmishes but don't lose or gain anything, the only thing I really noticed is that France kicked Britain out of the mainland.

Although, the Mongols (also playable and they start under Russia) expanded a little and the Timurids own the Holyland area and some of Egypt. The main shocker though is that Sicily was an Empire until the crusades hit it and now they only own the islands and Sicily. Venice on the other hand turned into a major Empire and they are #1 on the stats all the way down. They moved East and I don't think they will slow down. Oh, Milan shrank down some but as a whole, no faction has been eliminated yet.

[Monsieur Alphonse]

hum let me see screen shots? Print screen

[Budwise]

hum let me see screen shots? Print screen

I know that one, I was hoping for another way so I can do more than one at a time.

[Didz]

I know that one, I was hoping for another way so I can do more than one at a time.

You can....in fact you are.....everytime you press 'PrintScrn' it stores the image in the folder \SEGA\Medieval II Total War\tgas as a .tga image the only task then is to take that image and convert it into a .jpeg for posting to the forum. I use Paintshop Pro for that task, but any decent graphic program should be able to do it.

The screen captures are named sequentially 001.tga, 002.tga, 003.tga....etc so you can press the button repeatedly during play and end up with a sequential picture history of the events in the game.

Alternatively, you could just download FRAPS which does the whole job including image capture.

[FactionHeir]

The way things develop if you don't interfere differ in each campaign run. There is no set outcome to all the calculations the AI does each turn in different campaigns.

I played similarly as England recently, taking only the British isles and leaving everything else as is and blocking all sea routes to the isles with lone boats. AI just duked it out with each other as if I had never been there (except of course that spain, portugal, denmark and obviously scotland didn't get to expand onto the isles)

[Red Spot]

I've restarted a few times in an English campaign in order to get a hang of say the diff. between RTW and M2TW.

Campaigns can and will be diff. specially if you influence them, not even talking about influencing the campaign by say slaughtering France but in the way like I've grown used to see Denmark declare war on me pretty early on generally but with a bit of diplomacy I now have them on a "very good" standing as ally.

Last games Milan was a swooping force and Poland crumbles under the pressure of all factions surrounding it, but I've seen Milan get kicked of the map in 60-ish turns and also seen Poland have 12+ settlements in also ~60 turns, kicking Hongary and Russia of the map.

The results are always interesting to see, how the AI may develop without interfearance by the player, but wont tell you much more than where for instance problem-area's are, like area's where the AI quickly stalls.


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[Budwise]

It is common knowledge that nobody attacks the Aztecs but you, but playing as them in the Custom Campaign Mod I am trying to see who will come out on top without human interference.

Well, the French sent out a diplomat who nodded at me one turn and left on a ship home, anyone else get the timewasted nod that accomplishes nothing because it doesn't come up with a diplomacy screen?

[sapi]

Well, the French sent out a diplomat who nodded at me one turn and left on a ship home, anyone else get the timewasted nod that accomplishes nothing because it doesn't come up with a diplomacy screen?

That usually indicates that they're trying to bribe you

[WhiskeyGhost]

That usually indicates that they're trying to bribe you

does it really? cause i've never seen any of my generals gain any traits while being in a town that has them doing that.............

[Budwise]

Update:

The Danes are pretty much taking over Venice and the center of the Map. Besides that, NO MAJOR EMPIRES FORMING. I don't even feel like putting up the effort to post a screenshot at this time. The Mongols and Timorids were dooking it out for like, ONE FREAKING ROUND. They are the two heavy hitters on the board at the time, the Danes were only medium sized at that time. I was hoping to see who would win in that fight but the mongols (Something happened but I don't know what) lost interest and ceasefired. Since then, the Mongols lost half of their land to THE DANES and the Timorids are like a Middle East country, they just sit there being lazy and bake in the sun. They lost Jerusalem for two rounds TO THE DANES but quickly took it back. I am seriously thinking about interfearing.

[Budwise]

One more thing, I am getting tired of all the Revolts that my American Island have been having. Apparently my people DON"T LIKE THEIR OWN RELIGION.

[Kansas Bear]

It is common knowledge that nobody attacks the Aztecs but you, but playing as them in the Custom Campaign Mod I am trying to see who will come out on top without human interference.

I forgot what button does screenshots so can someone refresh me so I can post some but so far my conclusions are of the following.

After 80 turns - Britain, France, Poland, and a few others don't really do much. They build huge armies and have border scirmishes but don't lose or gain anything, the only thing I really noticed is that France kicked Britain out of the mainland.

Although, the Mongols (also playable and they start under Russia) expanded a little and the Timurids own the Holyland area and some of Egypt. The main shocker though is that Sicily was an Empire until the crusades hit it and now they only own the islands and Sicily. Venice on the other hand turned into a major Empire and they are #1 on the stats all the way down. They moved East and I don't think they will slow down. Oh, Milan shrank down some but as a whole, no faction has been eliminated yet.

You haven't encountered any rebel units popping up? Or do you not get rebel 'armies' playing as the Aztecs??

[Budwise]

You haven't encountered any rebel units popping up? Or do you not get rebel 'armies' playing as the Aztecs??

Uh, its odd that you said that, NO REBEL ARMIES at all. I forgot all about that. Of course not having a Mine/Diplomat/fun buildings/Any special Buildings/ kind of upset the upsides to rebels.

[Budwise]

Just over 200 turns and FINALLY some empires are forming. It turns out I missed the message about war breaking out between the Timurids and Mongols but the Timurids are cleaning up. Russia and Danes are doing quite well as well. Only one faction was eliminated but two others are very close with only a city or two left and out of bordom, I accepted trade rights between the Papal States and Milan. So, I guess the integrity of this test ended a few turns ago.

[Budwise]

Urrrggg, the results are



I am quite disappointed that no faction really became huge until near the end. I am also annoyed that NOT A SINGLE FACTION wanted to send an army toward me at all either, I only saw three diplomats during my time in America and as a whole, I feel that I wasted time.

[Budwise]

Well thats disappointing. WHEN YOU ARE OUT OF TURNS LEFT, YOU CAN STILL PLAY LIKE NOTHINGS DIFFERENT. Because this is the case, WHY TELL ME HOW MANY TURNS I HAVE LEFT?

I will repost this in a seperate thread but for those who like to turtle, there is no hurry AT ALL for finishing your objectives in time.

[hoetje]

Budwise,maybe you should continue your testing then.I would like to see how the timurids are doing in let's see 100 turns.Maybe they succeed in getting a very big empire?