What should be fixed first above alll others?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Campaign AI!

By now, my destruction of the AI in campaign mode is notorious. I agree that the game needs to have the units retooled so that they function as expected in battle, but of even greater concern is the fact that the campaign AI is predictable, stupid, illogical, and sooooooooooo easy to destroy.

Give pizza guy something more meaty to chew on, and build a better campaign AI. Different maps and different units may add to the challenge, but if the campaign AI is still stupid, it won't matter.

Great game though. Any criticism is out of love.

[Monsieur Alphonse]

I voted for a better Campaign AI. Here are two examples of my Milan campaign.
I had wiped Venice out of Italy and out of the Balkans. All they had left Iraklion and Rhodes. We made peace and next I captured Egypt. At that time the Venetians attacked me at Alexandria. They were so desperate to capture Alexandria that they left Iraklion undefended. All I had to do was to send a small task force and capture Iraklion. I left a small garrison and attacked Rhodes that was defended by the faction leader, while the Venetian fleet with two stacks was still at sea heading to wards Iraklion. Next turn Venice was out of the game.
A couple of turns later I captured Cordoba from the Moors. Next I attacked Lisbon (held by the Moors). I left Cordoba defended by a couple of militia units because I thought that the Spanish wouldn't risk their last remaining stack to attack me. Nobody could be that stupid especially as we were at peace at that moment. How wrong was I. The Spanish send a very strong stack to capture Cordoba (DFKs, FKs, Pavise crossbows). After a heroic defense of my outnumbered militia units they captured the city. The attack had severely weakened the Spanish so I could recapture Cordoba the next turn. Two turns later Toledo (weakly defended) was in Milan's hands. All that was left of Spain ware Leon and Zaragossa and hardly defended.

The AI which programmed to attack the human player at all costs is actually weakening the AI itself, making the game easier.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Gotta love the dismounted English chefs.

[Didz]

Gotta love the dismounted English chefs.

If they've been trained by Gordon Ramsey their bound to be scary.
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[Kadagar_AV]

I also 100% agree that shouting is the first step, and second and third.

But we're not at step one, or two.... This is the fourth TW title and counting the patches, they should have had plenty of responce to help them design the game, I know I contributed with a lot through the years.

So yeah a lil' bit of shouting should be tested, to show them that the consumer base is unhappy with the bugged up game of today that doesnt deliver what's promised.

And on a sidenote, I dont even think the example was as much shouting as a way to highlight the main issue, as the OP posted.

[Fußball]

Campaign AI most definitely. The minor bugs was a good second but I can live with those were the AI improved. AI should 'prioritize' certain map points, especially cities/castles. I am left very much so lacking when I go to siege a settlement and the AI factions leave one family member + bodyguard or one unit of something utterly useless. As if sieges are easy enough with all the options you have as the attacker including (and do not get my started on) spies opening the gates.

Whilst the one unit is sitting in a very important settlement you have the rest of the entire faction's damned armies marauding around occasionally attacking something. But most of the time doing nothing important, simply wandering about aimlessly. If the AI at least had to prioritize settlements and maintain a certain amount of units to garrison that would be an efficient stopgap measure.

Tschüß!
Erich

[Budwise]

A few notes to the poll that I should have added.

Dear Moderator, I didn't really mean that the two handed or the shield bug were minor. They are quite huge but I was trying to refer to all the other minor bugs that interfear with the games playability. Off hand, I can't remember that many but there were quite a few that needed to be fixed for a long time, too many to list from memory.

Also, I split up Diplomacy and Campaign AI on purpose because I feel that they should be seperate. With Diplomacy, I meant JUST THAT, nothing to do with the AI building this instead of that or how they build endless stacks of weaker, inferior troops, or even how they fail to take over an entire faction but instead take a province and just stay at war doing nothing. I understand that the two topics are linked and I should have specified what I meant as the difference better to avoid confusion in a possible vote.

Diplomacy wasn't supposed to include the possible war starts due to a moronic blockkade. It was supposed to refer to relations, bribing, keeping alliances, breaking them, helping an ally in need, and being more of a friend for the long run instead of just quick gains.

Now I will put this in bold so CA skimming through will read it.
NO ONE GIVES A DAMN ABOUT GRAPHICS - YOUR GRAPHICS ARE FINE - PLEASE SPEND FUTURE DEVELOPING TIME MAKING A GREAT GAME EVEN BETTER. WE DO NOT, ACCORDING TO EVERYONE IN THIS MESSAGEBOARD AS OF 4:05PM ON MONDAY THE 16th OF MAY CARE AT ALL ABOUT A GRAPHICAL UPDATE. IN FACT, SOME OF US ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE EXTRA HORSEPOWER NEEDED TO RUN A HIGHER GFX VERSION!!!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Woah! Hello!

LOL

I'm not sure the shouting was necessary. I hope the moderator doesnt lock the thread because of this.




edit: FuBball- Typing in all caps is widely considered to be shouting, especially when in bold face, with exclamation points, and when using the word "damn". I think I am on very firm ground here. I don't think there's actually any other way to interpret it.

[Fußball]

Just pointing out in bold and caps, do not think he meant yelling per se. Anyway, back to topic.

Tschüß!
Erich

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Well I voted bugs, not b/c I don't think the AI needs work but how can one expect campaign AI, battle AI & diplomacy to function without first addressing the bugs in the very code we want improved?

PseRamesses actually made a very valid point regarding the campaign and diplomacy AI and a few of them I would consider bugs.

Why do the AI cross a bridge when I´m attacking them?
Why does he move down from a hilltop just because I cirled around his flanks?

and why does the AI after rallying their routing siege units decide to re-man their rams and carry them off to god knows where even if the gates are already down! Seen this 6 times.

I notice a bug almost every turn. The majority are minor, nevertheless they are in plague proportions and its so very stupefying to behold. Don't they even know how to use a spellcheck! lol

Post 1.2 I have managed to fix over 120 to my own files but I imagine there are hundreds (maybe more) that go unnoticed or are unmoddable.

So, a working core game to build on is my vote.