MTW2 Multiplayer Campaign

**Ramses II CP** · 06-13-2008, 20:11

I am content with it either way. Personally I thought the cheating mess was much worse than the hand-me-down territory (The five settlements I got from Russia have been a massive drain on my empire in reality, as there was literally nothing constructed in them and immediate, overwhelming public order problems due to distance and religion), but there does seem little to do other than wait for the Mongols and then watch everyone take me apart while I deal with them.

**Ferret** · 06-13-2008, 21:11

Hey stop badmouthing my Empire, Novgorod had fairly built up economy.

**Ramses II CP** · 06-13-2008, 21:26

Yeah, for an Orthodox player with a capital in the region; when I got it it had a ~600 florin per turn mercenary garrison and made 650 florins per turn in income (Corruption and a nearby rebel army blocking a road), so over the first ten turns while I put up public order buildings, coverted the populace, and restructured the garrison it cost me probably around 1k florins per turn negative profit.

That's nothing compared to Ryazan and Moscow, both of which cost me more than that for longer than that just to get them in a non-rebellious state.

I'm not saying you did a bad job with Russia by any means, nor obviously would I refuse the gift, but what's good for Russia isn't automatically good for her benevolent overlords.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 06-14-2008, 00:45

If we declare a winner, they should have a majority of the #1 rankings in all the charts.

Territory, production, economy, army, etc.

Sicily is the likely winner.

edit: majority, or largest number of #1 rankings.

**FactionHeir** · 06-14-2008, 01:09

I think while Poland was gifted many of its territories by France, it would still be a joint winner due to being bigger than Sicily and the marriage alliance kind of helps with that.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 06-14-2008, 01:11

If you include your ally as a winner, what about your other allies?

Seems to me I'm the only once who comes out a loser here, since I'm no longer allied to Sicily.

**Ramses II CP** · 06-14-2008, 01:25

Err, I was gifted two territories by France, Smyrna and Iraklion. Sicily has a lot more formerly French territory than I have. I think I got five from EF, and lost one of them (Riga) due to trying to give it away to ATPG.

edit: I should make it clear I'm completely indifferent to whether or not I am declared the victor. The fact that Jerusalem is in Sicilian hands and is a victory condition for all remaining factions should be taken into account.