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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarax View Post

    EDIT: BTW, Cavalry? I really don't see the basis for a native cavalry force, at least not in numbers.
    Sardinian geography is not exactly the best for warhorses and back then there still was only the native breed (the native ponies were and still are rugged marchers but no chargers or real runners).
    On that side you might want to have some punic civic cavalry but that's pretty much it.
    you refer to the mini-horses of Giara.....
    but those are of were them living, in Sardinia c' they were also of the little ones elephants, not establish on this..... for your conclusions....

    we do not know when the horse was imported in Sardinia.

    But the Sardinians for the horses have true cult. if a day you will come in Sardinia, you will see that in many countries the stables rise as an example near the houses…, Orgosolo. and it is a mountain country.

    in Sardinia many festivities of Nuragic origin exist based on the horse. as an example S' Ardia.
    http://www.sardiniapoint.it/1437.html

    I have translate for you:
    Perhaps laughed them quite to the nuragico period, as seem to indicate the presence in the sacred area of a bètilo (betilo= Bet-il house of god), said pedra de Santu Antine, that it represents a feminine divinity of the fertility rituals.
    http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjrP27...eature=related

    Santu Antine
    it is one of the greatest and Nuraghi important of the Sardinia.
    http://www.fontesarda.it/imgsarde/nursan31.jpg

    moreover we have various reperti that the nuragici went to horse, in a bronze statue a knight is in feet over a horse, like in other Sardinian tradition: The Pariglia
    http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=vadvH4...eature=related

    this is typical askos a Sardinian one, even if they call it found villanoviano vase because in Italy

    this has been found in a nuragic village

    the symbols of the first vase are Sardinian, and the knight has the round shield of the Sardinians

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    Ok, just to establish a few things:
    Bi chi soe Nugoresu, ja l'isco chi b'este sa e s'ardia, sa sartiglia e ja connosco santu antine.

    That said: I'm not saying there weren't horses in Sardinia at the time, I'm just pointing that given the native resources I doubt that heavy horses went over what in RTW would be represented by the general's bodyguard.
    Sardinian equestrian tradition on the other side developed in the middle ages, when norman and arabic horses were imported, creating the basis for today's anglo-arabo-sardo. Sa sartiglia is for example derived from earlier moorish and spanish cavalry contests, quite later than what has been represented in EB.

    Once again, we need to distinguish between imported military styles (be it greek, etruscan or punic) from the native nuragic fighting style, which was not unlike the iberian one.
    It is more likely that the bulk of the nuragic tribes at the time was made of lighter infantry than showed in bronze statues, wouldn't be surprised if the later mamuthones derived from those as the romans called them Sardi Peliti.

    To those that aren't familiar with Sardinian folklore here's what I'm talking about:
    Not exactly looking like pushovers, no?

    EDIT: As I realize that this subtopic was started with thread necromancy I plead a kind moderator to move the posts to a more relevant place before closing the topic.
    Last edited by Zarax; 07-24-2008 at 22:13.
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    Bovi, I have yesterday sent a pm to Marcus Aurelius Antoninus

    Zarax we are making a O.t speech here I answer to you here if vuo still to discuss of…
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...76#post1876576
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