MTW2 Multiplayer Campaign Diplomacy thread.

[Zim]

This must be some kind of mistake. I have found the French nothing but honorable in their dealings. It was they who put an end to the English menace.

[Ramses II CP]

The evidence appears quite convincing to me. With great regret King Wladyslaw has begun commissioning his own assassin who will travel with him at all times for protection. No doubt this will reduce his hard earned reputation for chivalry, but the King's life must come first.

May God keep you all safe.

[Zim]

The Scottish representative looks scornfully at the Polish one.

This "proof" I see seems rather weak to me. One is a suspect report of a French spy. Even if that one is true it has no bearing on whether sabotage was committed by the French, as only assassins are trained to do that kind of damage. All it shows is that France is as interested as all of us in what goes on beyond their borders.

The second report is of a French Noble obviously being protected by his bodyguard assassin from the threat of foreign assassins, and on French soil. He most likely is returning from building watchtowers on the border with his rather aggressive neighbor, a wise view in my opinion. I'd note that the Polish king himself is now protected by an assassin, should we call him the culprit if we happen to find him marching about his own land?

Obviously there was no assassin at all. The building was most likely destroyed by some disgruntled or drunk Danish peasants and the Danish King is using it as an excuse to stir up trouble.

The evidence appears quite convincing to me. With great regret King Wladyslaw has begun commissioning his own assassin who will travel with him at all times for protection. No doubt this will reduce his hard earned reputation for chivalry, but the King's life must come first.

May God keep you all safe.

[Ramses II CP]

The Polish King is not within marching distance of any foreign city, much less the Danish capital, with the assassin he just commissioned to defend himself. Until this act of sabotage made it clear what terrible acts some of his fellow Catholic lords were willing to stoop to King Wladyslaw considered the hiring of assassins to be a lowly act.

While I suppose Scottish cities may frequently see their sheep fences knocked over by peasants, this was a structure large enough that it would take a horde of peasant who could not have worked without being seen... or one well trained and skilled agent of darkness.

I quite understand why you would be sympathic to your French masters, but do attempt a nonce of impartiality?

[FactionHeir]

It is surprising that King Malcolm would discard such evidence and even ignore the notion that we, the King of Sicily, have brought forward.

[Tran]

The Danish representative laughs at the Scottish

So, the Scots have became French servants I see. Indeed, the fact that there is no longer any Frenchman in this chamber mean that they are afraid and can no longer deny many accusations pointed toward them. Instead, they use their Scottish minions to do the job.

And I can only laugh at this statement:

The building was most likely destroyed by some disgruntled or drunk Danish peasants and the Danish King is using it as an excuse to stir up trouble.

It seems even Scotland is trying to come up with inane explanations to defend French clearly hostile attitude.

I don't need to warn you that Scotland has almost been exterminated once, by an old Kingdom called "England". Don't make someone else do it again...

[Zim]

I discard it because it proves nothing. As far as I am aware a man may travel with a bodyguard on his own land, as the French Nobleman in the report did, and spies do not sabotage buildings.

As for the Polish representative, I believe that it is you that is being partial, taking such poor evidence as proof.

I would also like to note that my own diplomat was killed in his sleep as he rested in an inn in Sicilian territory this past season. I know not who did it, but suspect that those same Kings most loudly seeking to assign blame without evidence for the sabotage are the likely culprits.

[Zim]

How convenient that a member of this court threaten me just as my diplomat is slain...

[_Tristan_]

The Danish representative laughs at the Scottish

there is no longer any Frenchman in this chamber mean that they are afraid

The French representative stands and adresses the Danish representative.

Why should we be here in these halls where we are dragged in the mud ?

We have no fear, and certainly not of you.

What we find particularly strange is how our Scottish ally diplomat on his way to Rome to reconcile his kingdom with the Pope has been found dead in some strange circumstances on the lands of a power that claims to have no assassins and will likely accuse of the deed on the grounds of having found a man in our employ near Rome.

This said with a knowing look towards the Sicilian representative.

Perhaps we had gotten word of a plot to attent to the Pope's life and our man was there to prevent such a devilish plan to be successful...

Now we have matters of importance to attend... Much more important than all this bickering...

The French representative leaves the chamber.

[FactionHeir]

While Sicily has started employing assassins for our own protection this season with the completion of the inn at Florence, we have not yet used their services.
Indeed, we have been more busy taking Nicosia and are pleased to announce that the old Romans are no more.

It is interesting that our ally France would accuse us of a plot to assassinate the Pope when they have their assassins roaming the area around the Papal States and their assassin was found escaping Florence this year!

Here is proof of the French agent, although there may be more we have not found:

[_Tristan_]

While Sicily has started employing assassins for our own protection this season with the completion of the inn at Florence, we have not yet used their services.

I wonder how Sicily managed to train at least two assassins if it only managed to build an inn this last season.

I can show proof also...

Plus I would like to state that some of my agents have also been the target of assassins namely one of my merchant escort captains and his charge the merchant he was sworn to protect.

This happening took place at the border between Florence and Genoa and so I will do as my Danish and Sicilian colleagues and jump to conclusions and accuse Sicily of those murders...

Now that accusations have been thrown around, I have some more announcements to make :

The Republic of Venice is dead and its last settlement at Rhodes has been given to the Holy Father.

This matter settled his Holiness has seen fit to declare a Crusade on the capital city of the Moors at Marrakech to destroy those unbelievers in the glory of Christ.

France has already answered the call and urges its fellow Christians to join in its wake.

[FactionHeir]

OOC: I queued up 2 assassins for training but wasn't aware both were trained. I think I might have loaded up the last save in the wrong mod folder as only my VanillaMod folder allows 2 agent trainings a turn.

[edit]
I believe the fact that the construction was just completed last turn as per the screens I posted backs that up

[Tran]

...how our Scottish ally...

We found it very ironical that both French and Scottish emissary called each other as "ally" when in truth no alliance has ever been declared between the two kingdoms, even until now. In fact, it is only Kingdom of Denmark, which has became Scottish ally. This could only mean that both of you are complete hypocrite, or have short memory.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Also, it is not only us, but almost, if not all, people in Europe that have little trust toward France. Rumours keep coming about countless numbers of assassination and sabotage attempts by French agents on friendly French neighbors being waged...

[Zim]

I would like to ask that our ally Denmark kindly refrain from sending warships to my coast. The Scottish fleet is more than capable of handling pirates in our own waters.

[Tran]

We'd like to know why Scotland justified French agents located outside their Kingdom but object to the present of our ships which are clearly not located within anyone's territory?

Before you accuse us of spreading lie, this words are taken from your previous statement:

This "proof" I see seems rather weak to me. One is a suspect report of a French spy. Even if that one is true it has no bearing on whether sabotage was committed by the French, as only assassins are trained to do that kind of damage. All it shows is that France is as interested as all of us in what goes on beyond their borders.

[Zim]

Because the main purpose of spies to collect information. I do not use them outside of my borders myself, but I suspect many of the nations here do. If captured they can be executed or imprisoned as spies and noone is likely to raise a complaint.

Warships sailing up to my very coast are a military threat, yet if I were to remove them you would consider it an act of war.

[Ferret]

I agree if a Nation does not want Spies they should stop them, assassins are allowed within ones lands. The French may have noticed a Russian spy has been viewing their Empire since 1080.

[Tran]

Greetings, we are proud to announce the signing of Charter of the Alliance between Kingdom of Denmark, Holy Roman Empire, Kingdom of Poland, and Kingdom of Sicily.

Charter of the Alliance

1. Purpose of the Alliance:

The Alliance has its origins in the realization that its members have more to gain from cooperation than in engaging in separate foreign policies, which would allow enemies to divide and conquer the Alliance. For this reason the Kingdom of Denmark, the Holy Roman Empire, Kingdom of Poland, and Kingdom of Sicily, have formed the Alliance to face common threats, cooperate in the expansion of its member-states, and form a common foreign policy.

2. Obligations of its Members:

a. The primary obligation of members to the Alliance is that of a common defense. Any country that attacks any member becomes an enemy to all, and we will stand united against them.

b. Another obligation to members is to cooperate on forming a common foreign policy concerning the Alliance's relations with the other countries of the world. Whenever possible, members will stand with each other in any dispute or war between a member and any non-member. To ensure that this will not put any member into an awkward position unless absolutely necessary, major plans should be discussed before being put into place by any single member.

c. The Alliance does not prohibit members from making their own bilateral deals or alliances with countries outside of it. However, it is important that Alliance agreements and obligations trump any bilateral agreements and no member should engage in plans against another member.

3. Rights of the Members of the Alliance:

a. Members of the Alliance might withhold aid (military or otherwise) in a war of aggression by one party, with some form of justification, but should guarantee in all cases, not to provide aid to, or intervene on the side of the warring party's enemies.

b. Members of the Alliance might forbid or restrict other members' agent and troops movement on its territory when there is no hostile aggressor presence on the Alliance territory.

c. Members of the Alliance might leave the Alliance, with prior notice.

4. Extraordinary Situations:

a. This charter shall be null and void if any member of the Alliance attacks the Papal State.

b. If any member of the Alliance attacks other member of the Alliance, the aggressor will be instantly expelled from the Alliance and become enemy of the rest of members of Alliance.

[FactionHeir]

I, Prince Simon, declare that the Kingdom of Sicily will rethink its stance towards its longtime ally, France, in the light of their endless wars against godfearing and law-abiding good Christians. My father is down with an ailment and as his heir, I believe that the Kingdom of Sicily is better served remaining allied with its fellow brothers in faith rather than a Kingdom that will attack without reason any other Christian kingdom.

We have supported France without wavering when they went to war against Milan and then against Venice when they had been our allies too. But now attacking the small kingdom of Hungary after seemingly giving them Ragusa can no longer be tolerated.

We shall not be hostile towards France, but we cannot remain allied without jeopardizing all of our other alliances.

[Zim]

Fellow Kings, I hope and pray that this coalition was not formed for the purpose of aiding the aggressive intent of some of its members.

I was right to be concerned about the warships the Danish King had sent to scout out my coastline. This season he landed a large army on my territory and took Scotland's ancestral capital of Edinburg. Even now they march on Inverness.

There has been much said here of French aggression, primarily as directed against those not members of this court. If it is true that you stand against naked aggression and the seizure of land not belonging to the aggressor, I implore you to censor the Danish King. He gave no warning of this attack, on one of his allies. I have done nothing to him, except question his attempts to foment war among the Kings of Europe, and he responds with this despicable act of treachery.

[Csargo]

The Kaiser is displeased with the actions of the Danish King. He demands to know why he would form a Coalition to protect against senseless aggression, when he himself is the one who attacks for seemingly no reason.

Kaiser Heinrich

[Ramses II CP]

King Wladyslaw is also immensely displeased to be drawn into a defensive alliance with a nation which turns out to be the aggressor in a war between Catholics. Unless some explanation is forthcoming the Poles will withdraw from the Coalition, pull their agents out of Danish land as quickly as possible, and call a vote to expel the Danes from the Catholic League (If anyone cares about that dead institution ).

[Tran]

So King Malcolm proved to be a French servant after all, how short the memory of this King of Scotland? We have made a warning in this very council, a long time ago

...I don't need to warn you that Scotland has almost been exterminated once, by an old Kingdom called "England". Don't make someone else do it again...

And made other warnings in respond to your attitude, the presence of those two ships should have been clear indication. But it was clear that you chose to ignore them.

After all, you have been excommunicated for a long time by the Papacy, and by becoming French servant you only made it worse. The time has now come to free the people of Scotland from its tyrannical and heretical King. And in doing this, I believe the Holy Father does not object to our chivalrous missions.

[Zim]

That is your excuse for betraying and attacking an ally? What a pathetic man you are, seeking to take advantage of Scotland's failing to realize a decades long ally would attack them out of the blue.

The only consolation for this even is that your fellow coalition members have seen through your petty betrayal and will not aid you. Feel free to keep up this war against one you signed a treaty of alliance with, who had never done you any harm. I suspect that lacking surprise, you will be incapable of advancing much further.

[Tran]

Do not you worry, King Malcolm. The people of Scotland are welcoming us as their new chivalrous ruler and I believe they will not hesitate to send enemy of the Pope to hell

[Ferret]

The Danes have made a mistake, these actions will not be forgotten.

[_Tristan_]

A French emissary enters the chamber and adresses the assembled lords.

Finally, the Danes show themselves for the bandits and cowards they truly are...

First they unduly accused us of sabotage, then rather than take the matter up with us they strike at our common ally, who, since England's treachery has been punished, is struggling to keep its kingdom afloat and regain favor with his Holiness...

I say coward because had the Danes some courage they would have struck at us and not at our Scottish friend...

But Danes, you shall soon learn that who lives by the sword shall die by the sword...

With this, the messenger unleashes its sword from its scabbard and launches through the air towards the Danish representatives' bench, forcing them to bolt from their seats or be impaled by French steel...

[Csargo]

The HRE will aid the Scots in any way they can. They only need to ask.

[Zim]

Fellow Kings, I have been deeply touched by the support I have received. I must admit, since it was the Danish King himself who announced the "Charter of the Alliance" I was fearful that his attack would not be dondemned by the other members. However, it has become obvious that this Alliance is no friend to those who would attack and betray an ally to fulfill his greed. I am humbled by the chivalry shown by the Kings present these past few days.

To my French ally, I will gladly accept your aid in freeing Britain or any other lands of mine invaded, however I know that you have had internal troubles of late and would ask that you not overstretch yourself.

To the Kaiser, your offer of help overwhelms me. I would not ask you to war against a King with whom you have so recently signed an alliance, unless you feel his traitorous actions have nullified the agreement.

To the others who have offered support to me in this time of crisis, I offer my thanks. It will not be forgotten.

[Csargo]

To the Kaiser, your offer of help overwhelms me. I would not ask you to war against a King with whom you have so recently signed an alliance, unless you feel his traitorous actions have nullified the agreement.

I do not plan on starting a war with Denmark, though I will think over the alliance and decide if it is in the best interest of my people to keep it. If you need any more florins to support your war effort, other than what we have already agreed upon, you need only ask.

Kaiser Heinrich