EB Preview : Hayasdan Reforms

[Rundownloser]

That looks awesome, great work.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Wow, two pages already.

Btw, I too am looking forward to this!

[Geoffrey S]

Wow. Incredible work. This should make Hayasdan far more interesting to play as. Only two questions spring to mind:

1. Is the distance to which provinces can be reformed to support a type II government based on the previous extent of the Persian empire? It looks rather large to me, but I admit I don't know how centrally governed the more far-flung areas were.
2. It probably sounds rather greedy, but are such reforms planned for other factions which start off uncentralised? Such as the Sweboz, Lusitanians, the Dacians, Casse, and possibly Saba? I really like the idea of limiting such factions at the start to prevent completely a-historical steamrollering.

Again, great work! This is the kind of thing I love in EB. And yeah, the descriptions are really good, nice and indepth.

[russia almighty]

So we can pick and choose which towns we want to leave Hellenic and which ones we want to Persianize ?

[I Am Herenow]

What I have shared is the model of how "Eastern" nations in history expanded, and a strategy plan of consolidation. Without revealing any concepted plan, I ask the fans to try to realize the potential of this structure.

Well, so far we've had previews for Pahlava and Hayasdan - are Arche Seleukeia, Saka Rauka and Baktria going to get something too? I hope the AS "break-up" thing becomes more obvious TBH - nothing seemed to happen when I played as other factions.

Also, thanks for the historical information.

[Cybvep]

In fact, this "break up" thing should not only be the AS's problem, but the problem of any bigger empire. In RTW it's just too easy to manage an empire, and I hope that in future versions EB will do sth about it... It would be cool if the later game would also be interesting. After all, running an empire shouldn't be a picnic.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

That's fantastic, Food.

[Foot]

Wow. Incredible work. This should make Hayasdan far more interesting to play as. Only two questions spring to mind:

1. Is the distance to which provinces can be reformed to support a type II government based on the previous extent of the Persian empire? It looks rather large to me, but I admit I don't know how centrally governed the more far-flung areas were.
2. It probably sounds rather greedy, but are such reforms planned for other factions which start off uncentralised? Such as the Sweboz, Lusitanians, the Dacians, Casse, and possibly Saba? I really like the idea of limiting such factions at the start to prevent completely a-historical steamrollering.

Again, great work! This is the kind of thing I love in EB. And yeah, the descriptions are really good, nice and indepth.

1. Achaemenid Persia, at its height, extended further than this. But this zone of reforming provinces represents the heartland and the most important provinces. Baktria was incredibly important as was Syria, so I used those two as boundaries. I didn't want to head south into egyptian land or anatolia as I felt they weren't really in the zone I wanted to focus on.

2. If other factions want to use a similar system they are more than welcome to, but they would need to dicuss that amongst themselves as to what is the most appropriate.

Foot

[Foot]

So we can pick and choose which towns we want to leave Hellenic and which ones we want to Persianize ?

Not really, but I guess its possible through cheating. Constructing the building "The Conquerer Comes ..." in the provinces of a tier, getting the Expansion Precursor and then destroying the building "The Conquerer Comes ..." is an easy way to exploit the system. Nothing I can do about that, except be careful and don't cheat.

Foot

[Sarkiss]

nah, all units down the right have already been previewed. I was referring more in the way of building descriptions.

I mean, they are not really hidden, but you know...

Foot

got it!
nice descriptions (cant see bonuses that "Conquerer comes..." provides though ) and idea as a whole! very well done!

[Foot]

got it!
nice descriptions (cant see bonuses that "Conquerer comes..." provides though ) and idea as a whole! very well done!

You'll also be pleased to hear that the Caucasian Archers will be making it into the next public release, so no more thanvare payahdag in the mountains.

Foot

[Conqueror]

Not really, but I guess its possible through cheating. Constructing the building "The Conquerer Comes ..." in the provinces of a tier, getting the Expansion Precursor and then destroying the building "The Conquerer Comes ..." is an easy way to exploit the system. Nothing I can do about that, except be careful and don't cheat.

Foot

But could you still choose whether or not to reform a particular tier of provinces, so long as the previous tier has already been reformed right? So could you, for example, reform all the provinces east from the center and leave those to the west unreformed, thus getting the hellenistic recruitment options from local MICs in the west and the persian recruitment options from factional MICs in the east? That wouldn't be cheating would it?

[Foot]

But could you still choose whether or not to reform a particular tier of provinces, so long as the previous tier has already been reformed right? So could you, for example, reform all the provinces east from the center and leave those to the west unreformed, thus getting the hellenistic recruitment options from local MICs in the west and the persian recruitment options from factional MICs in the east? That wouldn't be cheating would it?

That is in fact what the system allows (something I did on purpose).

Foot

[Sarkiss]

You'll also be pleased to hear that the Caucasian Archers will be making it into the next public release, so no more thanvare payahdag in the mountains.

Foot

i thought you've forgotten about it.
thanks

[Karo]

Man this is going to be soo great can't wait to start a new campaigne with Haysdan and when are you guys planning to bring a voice mod for armenia

[Krusader]

Man this is going to be soo great can't wait to start a new campaigne with Haysdan and when are you guys planning to bring a voice mod for armenia

When someone writes the commands in Armenian accompanied by a pronunciation guide.

[Hooahguy]

was this the promised preview we've been waiting for? btw, great preview! maybe after i finish as SPQR, ill do the Hai.

[Lysander13]

With all the work being done on the Pahlava and now the Hayasdan as well; those are two factions that are growing increasingly attractive to play as for me. Although i'm a Greek apologist, i'm more than willing to give the "eastern barbarians" a try with all the work you guys are putting into these 2 factions...Hehe J/K with the barbarian stuff...

Great work Foot!!

[Karo]

When someone writes the commands in Armenian accompanied by a pronunciation guide.

If thats all that is needed I can do that, now I don't really have that much time but in a week or three I could do it

[I Am Herenow]

I only just got those "easter eggs" lol , but I could only find the links on TWC.

Anyway, nice descriptions, but just some small things I think you should change.

In the paragraph before the "STRATEGY" paragraph for both descriptions, you should, in my opinion, change the following:

It was only the twin pressures that begun began the inevitable dissolution of the Seleukid Empire. By this time Hayasdan's economy and military and become had been organised under the new king Artashes, whose successes in battle helped form make Hayasdan into a homogenous kingdom.

Otherwise: cool!

[Sarkiss]

When someone writes the commands in Armenian accompanied by a pronunciation guide.

nah, that wouldnt sound right! what you really need is an native Armenian to do the voicing!
a question. will this new boduguard unit replace the current one? imo the latter looks awesome btw.

[Krusader]

nah, that wouldnt sound right! what you really need is an native Armenian to do the voicing!
a question. will this new boduguard unit replace the current one? imo the latter looks awesome btw.

Actually, forgot to mention that part, but as I understood anyone who wants to pronounce the words needs to speak Armenian or a closely related language natively or fluently.
We don't just put anyone in front of a mic. Our Punic voicemod actor had to use weeks to perfect his pronunciation before he began. Expect no less for Armenian or any other language.

[shlin28]

Where is the Easter egg? I cant find it

[Swordmaster]

Where is the Easter egg? I cant find it

I only just got those "easter eggs" lol , but I could only find the links on TWC.

[LusitanianWolf]

Pretty nice!!!!
I was wanting to start an game with Hai, and now....
Excelent job!!!!

[Basileus Seleukeia]

Still don't get it. I can't find any links to an "easteregg" in the building description of the TWC preview. Could soemone please PM me and tell me what this "easteregg" is and where to find it?

[shlin28]

Is the easter egg the two building descriptions? But i cant find any refrences about the TWC

[Geoffrey S]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Click on the buildings icons for The Conqueror comes... and [/b]...and brings Peace and Order[/B]. Enjoy!

[Basileus Seleukeia]

Ah, thank you

[Karo]

Actually, forgot to mention that part, but as I understood anyone who wants to pronounce the words needs to speak Armenian or a closely related language natively or fluently.
We don't just put anyone in front of a mic. Our Punic voicemod actor had to use weeks to perfect his pronunciation before he began. Expect no less for Armenian or any other language.

Don't worry I'm a native armenian borne in Hayastan
So if you want I could start working on it begin september or soo.