Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
What I was commenting on was: "Clearly he is unpopular but when one puts the rhetoric aside and the easy verdicts of popular culture as to the evilness of bush and his cronies, one can see that Rove is far from finished in politics."

Putting aside "the rhetoric" and "the easy verdicts of popular culture" is what you suggest is needed to see clearly. You are implying that people who think Rove is finished are, therefore, subject to "the rhetoric" and/or "the easy verdicts of" etc. I'm not at all clear on what "the rhetoric" is, but "easy verdicts of popular culture" has a distinctly elitist tone. It smacks of, "The howling mob may believe one thing, but we people of good sense know better."
How negative.

However if one considers the overall sentiment of the conversation thus far, one might see the point of the commentary that includes "Rhetoric" or "verdicts of popular culture" in contrast to Rove as a political element.

Did I miss the gist of the thread thus far lemur or did you ?

So I riffed off the implied elitism of your phrase, and slung it back atcha by pointing out that "elite" has become a dirty word in American politics (a bit of linguistic judo performed mostly by the far Right).If one spends any time reading rightwing publications, one will stumble across "liberal elite," "media elite," "academic elite," etc., always used as a pejorative.
Excellent, that means my initial instinct was correct (and well tested here in the backroom) that it was an attempted slight. Perhaps in the future when you infer something about someones charecter on a message board you might ask what they mean (you know like I asked you) it lends you more credability, and offers more clarity as to what your actually discussing.


Thankfully I am more Libertarian then anything else and dont fall into the "verdicts of popular culture" as referenced in your quote. Of course if you had asked you might have gathered that? No matter, my point in posting in this thread was to look at Rove as the political animal and what happens next.

It would have been simple to have said "yep dont let the door hit you in the ass" of course since it had already been said.

By the way congrats on becoming a moderator (I think this is a new thing). I often find your posts to be most informative and fairly clean (however you do lean left slightly). No offence was meant by this reply or any taken from you, however now that your one of the keepers you might consider how pointed a stick you use when poking at the animals in the future.