Need Help Editing the Family Tree

**FactionHeir** · 08-30-2007, 18:13

Did you do any modding the first time you experienced the AI turn crash?
In my experience, it only happens if you mod something and did something wrong.

While I wouldn't think extra MPs would cause a crash, I suppose it can be possible if there is a max somewhere which wasn't properly capped and added movement boni forced it to overflow.

As for the other modded files, it would be good to have a full list - one of them will likely also be the culprit in the error you get shown.

Best would be to remove all files from your mod folder, see if you get an error / crash at all.
Then add one file at a time, beginning with the file you are most certain about etc till you find which file causes a problem.

**GeneralMikeIII** · 08-30-2007, 18:39

I don't have time now to go through all the files one-by-one, but I was able to copy the save file for my campaign from my mod over to the vanilla game and load it, and it still had the same error at the same time.

Note: This was a few turns into the game (turn 8 I think), so I don't think it is a mp problem, because then shouldn't it have triggered on the first turn (when the modded file would first take effect)? Like on the first turn, I was able to move my spy for all of his mp, without a crash.

**FactionHeir** · 08-30-2007, 18:51

If there is a crash at the same point and time, its likely the save is I think corrupted. You can test this by doing something else before the crash and seeing if it still does, like attacking some Milanese unit.

Its also possible that a file that is only read for new campaigns was modded incorrectly resulting in this behavior, that in vanilla it also still crashes.

Really, the only way you can find the culprit is as I outlined before.

**alpaca** · 08-30-2007, 19:58

Yeah simply remove the descr_movies files, it's a bug in my stripped mod folder and they're not necessary anyways.

Does the CTD only happen if you load a campaign or does it also happen in a new campaign?
Did you add any traits?

**GeneralMikeIII** · 08-30-2007, 22:57

Originally Posted by alpaca

Does the CTD only happen if you load a campaign or does it also happen in a new campaign?
Did you add any traits?

I have gotten it in other games as well.
I didn't add any traits from scratch, but have added/removed effects and changed the triggers for a lot of the existing ones.