King of the Romans OOC thread XII

**Ignoramus** · 09-10-2007, 10:32

This is moving very slowly, guys. With OK having two successive terms, and Ituralde indicating that he's going to assume the Chancellorship in 1300, there's no point in canvassing support for becoming Chancellor. OK is doing a fantastic job in keeping things moving, but it's simply becoming too much for me.

As much as people talk up this catastrophe in 1320, I think it is merely delaying our win by 40 turns. Part of the point of WoTS PBM's is the challenge of having conflicting views about the policy of the faction, while trying to successfully expand/defend against the AI.

We've done an admirable job of keeping this PBM going past 1220, when it was obvious that we weren't going to lose, so I think there's no shame in concluding the game in 1300.

We have:

- Defeated the Milanese
- Made the Pope a puppet
- Crippled France
- Crippled Venice
- Crippled Sicily
- Crippled Hungary
- Conquered the Holy Land
- Defeated the Mongols
- Conquered all of Italy
- Conquered half of France
- Conquered most of the Balkans
- Conquered half of Poland
- XXXXXXXXX amount of florins
- 10 Cardinals in the College
- Had lots of fun.

**Stig** · 09-10-2007, 10:47

I see no reason to suddenly end this, there's enough to do for the future of this.
If you can't find the time to play anymore or you don't like this anymore you can always just resign mate, no shame in that.
Personally I would love to reach America or fight the Timurids (I've never come this far on my own before)

**Ignoramus** · 09-10-2007, 10:54

I'm just saying that it'll take us another year to reach 1530, and surely it would be more challenging and exciting to start a new game. WoTS only went for 10 months, and this is how long KoTR has gone.

**Stig** · 09-10-2007, 10:58

Yes, a new game might be more challenging, but when disaster will strike this will be like a new game, only difference is is that everyone has an avatar.
I believe there are other PBMs trying to run, you can join those as well.

**OverKnight** · 09-10-2007, 11:54

Wait, I'm confused, should I be doing a worse job as Chancellor?

I got elected fair and square two times. I didn't get it handed to me on a silver platter either, like the Kaisers.

3/4 of the avatars are unmarried including Matthias, I guess we're celibate warrior monks or something. The topic is well covered ground, but what is odd is that I've gotten marriage offers for the daughters, but no offers of wives to the already existing avatars. Not one.

Can anyone actually remember the last avatar that got married outside of a Princess marriage?

**Northnovas** · 09-10-2007, 12:06

You did a great job and no I can't remember the last marriage outside of a princess.

We did what we had to do from the last diet session and another is coming up. I think it will get very interesting in what we want to do with the game IC and OOC.

**TinCow** · 09-10-2007, 12:13

If we choose to implement the 'event' as planned, the game will get far more interesting, I assure you.

Are we really only playing this to meet the victory conditions? I thought we were playing to have fun, without any real ending goals.

**Dutch_guy** · 09-10-2007, 15:14

Originally Posted by Ignoramus

WoTS only went for 10 months, and this is how long KoTR has gone.

Has it been that long already ?

If we choose to implement the 'event' as planned, the game will get far more interesting, I assure you.

Now I haven't visited the Diet in a while, but what event are you referring to ?

**TinCow** · 09-10-2007, 15:22

Originally Posted by Dutch_guy

Now I haven't visited the Diet in a while, but what event are you referring to ?

There's been some OOC discussion about creating a 'catastrophe' that will result in the loss of provinces, buildings, and armies. It would significantly weaken us and strengthen our enemies, giving us far more of a challenge (and interesting RP opportunities) than we've had for sometime. I believe econ21 will be speaking about it in more detail around the next Diet session.

Originally Posted by FactionHeir

He didn't always show it though. I was actually surprised at his eloquent remarks.

I suppose that's true. There were a great deal of private conversations between Gerhard and Lothar and I suspect it was far more obvious there. As with other Houses, not everything in Bavaria is visible to public eyes.

**AussieGiant** · 09-10-2007, 16:10

It's pretty much the same issue I've seen in most role-playing games.

It seems impossible to maintain the same level of interest for a long period of time.

I personally do not want to end this, but I have noticed a certain amount of lethargy from everyone.

It's a pity Olympia had to leave as she was certainly going to add some spice to the situation.

I'd like wait for the Timurids as I believe it will certainly be a challenge for most of the players here...of course some are invincible.

I would not really support a traitor that is not a clear role playing move. Something artificial like the mafia game would not really suit this game in my opinion.

I have not real goal in mind at this point. The game simply provides a back drop for role playing. We have so much legislation and amendments that people can actually play this game as much more than simply MTWII.

My question is...what is the spark that is missing for those that are loosing some momentum?

**Northnovas** · 09-10-2007, 16:59

I think what happens with the pace is what was planned or voted for in the last Diet. In this case if objectives are met and there are no threats then things become idle waiting for the Chancellor's term to end.
We do not have any issues/threats to focus on for the next few turns.
I think we will have to discuss some avenues IC/OOC in the next Diet. I didn't have any objectives in mind only how far can we play the game without "blitzing" for total domination. I am amazed it has been this long and I think there is life still.
It is what we make it or want to make of it.