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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
    That's Stalin's Corner, mate. Careful what you say about it, unless you fancy a trip to Siberia.
    Cool, what about the rest?,to give a good generalization you know...

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    Upper left = Stalin. The State is powerful, the market limited.
    Upper right = Thatcher/W/Mussolini, most right-wing leaders, etc. The State is powerful, the market open.
    Lower left = Ghandi/Mandela/Dali Lama (the 'good guys'). The people have freedoms, the market is limited.
    Lower right = Lemur. The people have freedoms, the market is open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
    Upper left = Stalin. The State is powerful, the market limited.
    Upper right = Thatcher/W/Mussolini, most right-wing leaders, etc. The State is powerful, the market open.
    Lower left = Ghandi/Mandela/Dali Lama (the 'good guys'). The people have freedoms, the market is limited.
    Lower right = Lemur. The people have freedoms, the market is open.

    Excellent thumbnailing there, GH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
    Upper left = Stalin. The State is powerful, the market limited.
    Upper right = Thatcher/W/Mussolini, most right-wing leaders, etc. The State is powerful, the market open.
    Lower left = Ghandi/Mandela/Dali Lama (the 'good guys'). The people have freedoms, the market is limited.
    Lower right = Lemur. The people have freedoms, the market is open.
    Mussolini would probably be in the same quadrant as Thatcher (just like Hitler was in this graph but not far from the vertical axis. Unlike socialism, there are still private corporations in fascism but they're ultimately subservient to the state's economic plans.
    Thatcher is considered a "neoliberal" politician: tax and spending cuts, little interference in the economy, etc.

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    GH, your post implies that Lemur is some grand political leader
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    @ Kralizec: True. I suppose I was comparing Mussolini to the other totalitarian leaders of the era when I put him in that position. I do think he allowed more market freedom than most.

    @ FH: Well, there weren't that many social libertarian/free-market leaders to choose from. How many executive officers do you know that don't control social life or the economy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FactionHeir
    GH, your post implies that Lemur is some grand political leader
    Just you watch, I will conquer the world with blood and iron. And then, um, I'll enshrine personal liberty, private property, and devolve all government to the local level, with only a loose federation on top. I guess it will be kind of an anti-climactic New World Order.

    I'm quite thrilled to have an entire political/economic quadrant to myself, although I must point out the Prole, Kralizec and Productivity are in there with me. Any of you guys want to be Ministers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Just you watch, I will conquer the world with blood and iron. And then, um, I'll enshrine personal liberty, private property, and devolve all government to the local level, with only a loose federation on top. I guess it will be kind of an anti-climactic New World Order.
    I'll be the first to call for your lynching.

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    Any body wants to try this again, there is a similar quiz at a site Xiahou linked to in the Fred Thomson thread:

    http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/qu...?quiz=Pres2008




    It is like the one used before, but the graph designer made up down (we'll shoot him later).

    I got "libertarian-leaning left-liberal", which sounds interesting:
    Personal Score 75%
    Economic Score 41%

    Closest US politician to my position is apparently John Kerry, which sounds about right.

    The site is quite informative on the US presidential candidates - as well as the charts, it has quite detailed information on their positions on a variety of issues. I did not realise Hilary (left liberal) is positioned so far to the right of her husband (moderate populist). I mean I had heard her beliefs were more liberal, but thought she was running on a more centrist platform. Maybe the site reflects her past statements more than current stance?
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    I try to avoid posting in the Backroom (for the sake of harmony, not lack of interest) but figured this was an interesting compilation of Orgah political orientations. Thus, my results:

    Your political compass
    Economic Left/Right: 0.00
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77


    I'm somewhat surprised by my Economic result. I expected to be at least slightly right on that. Hitting a dead 0 makes me feel like I don't know what to take a stance on.


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    Same as TinCow, here - I normally wouldn't post, but the quiz was interesting.

    I do wonder how they weight their results, though, as it's more neutral than I expected...

    Economic Left/Right: 0.62
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.90
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    Your Political Philosophy
    The below is a way of thinking about your political philosophy by dividing your PoliticsMatch answers into "personal" and "economic" questions. It is only a theory - please take it with a grain of salt!

    Personal Questions: Liberals and libertarians agree in choosing the less-government answers, while conservatives and populists agree in choosing the more-restrictions answers.

    Economic Questions: Conservatives and libertarians agree in choosing the less-government answers, while liberals and populists agree in choosing the more-restrictions answers.


    Your Score

    You scored the following on the PoliticsMatch questions:

    Personal Score 36%
    Economic Score 70%


    Where You Fit In

    Where your Personal score meets your Economic score on the grid below is your political philosophy. Based on the above score, you are a Libertarian-Leaning Conservative .

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    I ended almost precisely in the center of that last test with:
    Personal Score 49%
    Economic Score 45%

    However thist test is quite obviously US-centric.

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    Wow, that was a nice short quiz.

    89%/20%

    The only question I really didn't care for was the Immigration/Amnesty one. I didn't think it was fair to lump so many concepts into one question. Encourage (legal) immigration would've gotten a "support" answer. While amnesty/encourage illegal immigration would've gotten on "oppose". As it were, I just voted "oppose". Still, it seemed to line up pretty well with the previous test, considering how much shorter it was.

    Although the quiz labels me "Hard-core conservative", I usually prefer a "Conservative with a slight libertarian lean" and I think the chart reflects that well enough. A more nuanced test would likely have me a bit higher on the personal scale.
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    I got an 80% economic, 45% personal. Like Xiahou, I'm not happy with the way the questions merged several topics, unless they were scored that way as well. For example, answering that you're in favor of school vouchers appears to have been scored that if you supported it, it lowered your personal score which is hogwash. You're offering parents choices, not forcing them to endure the dysfunctional monopoly that is the American educational system where "Heather has Two Mommies" is required reading but kids don't know who George Washington was. I favor school vouchers because I believe in giving parents choices, but also because I'm opposed to government ordained monopolies (a social and an economic reason).
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    Not thrilled with the way some of those questions were phrased. "Permit" prayer in public schools? What does that mean, exactly? As long as there are trigonometry tests, there will be prayer. Do they mean permit organized, teacher-led prayer? Or do they mean private group prayer? Kinda soft around the edges, that one.

    Likewise "Abortion is a woman's right." Um, sometimes? No room for nuance on that issue as they phrase it. And many of the questions, frankly, depend on implementation. Privatize social security? Sounds good, but how do you intend to go about it?

    This should surprise no-one: "Your political philosophy is Moderate Libertarian Conservative."


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    60%/45% on mine. One I found quite screwy was whether I wanted to limit fuel emissions; yes, I do, but not necessarily for environmental reasons as the poll suggests. Rather to at least get off the worrying dependance of modern nations on fuel sources which certainly aren't going to be around for that much longer.
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    4.38, -1.08 on first scaling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone
    For example, answering that you're in favor of school vouchers appears to have been scored that if you supported it, it lowered your personal score which is hogwash.
    I think that question - along with some others, like the one on gun control - is not used in constructing the score. I was a little surprised, as I thought it was a clear economic libertarian issue (as gun control would be a clear social libertarian one). But I was a little relieved, as I dithered on it and gave no opinion. If you dig around the site, there is very transparent information on exactly how each answer is expected to correspond to the four political philosophies identified.

    BTW, the site's use of the term popularism is an interesting alernative label for what the first test would label authoritarianism.

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    72% Personal
    14% Economical
    On the second test.

    If you clicked on the question you could actually read on what the different stances meant Lemur.

    A short America centered test gives it a bit rough edges, but it still shows you about the area that you would expect (I still feel awfully left on the economical scale on that scale though. I'm not that left ) .
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    Moderate Populist


    This isn't too far off, and probably closer to my actual beliefs than the last test.

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    Second Scaling:

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    Your Score

    You scored the following on the PoliticsMatch questions:


    Personal Score 32%
    Economic Score 84%


    Where You Fit In

    Where your Personal score meets your Economic score on the grid below is your political philosophy. Based on the above score, you are a Libertarian-Leaning Conservative.
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    I will update the charts, I just haven't had a chance in the last few days between work/studies.

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    Personal Score 36%
    Economic Score 34%
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    On the US test I scored 26% economic and 66% personal.

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    Moderate leaning liberal. Scores also intersting since I'm not a socolist.

    Personal Score 69%
    Economic Score 35%
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    Personal Score 45%
    Economic Score 49%
    Far, far off the truth there
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    I got hard-core liberal, which I don't think is entirely accurate, but I think it lines up with my beliefs fairly well. On military issues I tend to be fairly moderate I think, but that is probably one of the few aberrations in my generally hard-core liberal beliefs.
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    First quizz :

    Economic Left/Right: -7.50
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92
    Second one :

    Personal Score 58%
    Economic Score 13%


    Surprisingly I'm far from being a left wing extremist, at least I thought so :D
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    LMAO at the Second one:

    Hard-Core Liberal

    Personal Score 88%
    Economic Score 8%

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