Microsoft starts a "Get the Facts" campaign...against itself
You've got to hand it to Microsoft. It hates ANYTHING and ANYONE that gets in its way of selling its software.
Including, apparently, itself.
In a very funny turn of events, Microsoft is out preaching to the industry that XP is a bloated expense hog, while svelte Vista will cure world hunger (or, at least, cost less), as Paul Krill notes:
According to research conducted by Wipro and GCR Custom Research, total cost of ownership for Windows XP is $4,407 annually, while Vista's cost is $3,802. The $4,407 figure was derived from costs of hardware, software, IT labor, and user costs....
Peculiarly, the study actually was based on XP usage and extrapolations based on Vista capabilities because there was not a substantial base of Vista clients in use yet when the study was done early in 2007....
Reducing vulnerabilities and utilizing security policies presents savings, noted Bill Barna, principal consultant at Wipro. Security savings alone were estimated at $55. "If you can reduce the number of core vulnerabilities, you can basically have the savings flow throughout the entire security model," Barna said.
Imagine the kind of savings you could get if you just stopped using Windows altogether! Few to no security issues. Less administration. Etc.
By the way, the study claims that switching to Vista saves on hardware costs. How could this possibly be, when everything I have ever read on Vista is that it is a resource hog? You spend more on hardware with Vista, not less.
Anyway, Microsoft must really be hurting if it has to resort to beating up on its most stable product in years. It's clearly desperate to get people to move off XP (you know, the Windows OS that actually has hardware/peripheral support, a lot of software written for it, needs a lighter hardware platform, etc.). Maybe the open-source crowd should just wait for Microsoft to beat itself into oblivion.
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What next, a 'ditch Vista: get Vista SP1' campaign?!?!
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While I like Vista, XP is still better, and it will remain like that.
But still, M$, come onn...
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Considering companies pay the same yearly fee for whatever OS of MS they run... this report and the way it is handled doesn't make sense on several levels... the hardware requirements being the obvious lie... I wonder if anyone in MS had shown that this consultancy is obviously making up alot of its outcomes...
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While I agree with you that some or all of the information is probably wrong, I think companies advertising their new products in a way that makes their older stuff look worse is not that new.
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While I agree with you that some or all of the information is probably wrong, I think companies advertising their new products in a way that makes their older stuff look worse is not that new.
Deja vu - pretty much everything being said about Vista today was also being said about XP when it was released. e.g. "bloated", "resource hog" etc. It turned out that with all the cartoonish themes disabled, animated effects and 50% of the unnecessary, mostly networking related, services (that are mainly only of use to corporate users) disabled, XP was basically only a "Win2K update".
Back then XP was heavily criticised with many PC users "sticking with 2K/98SE". Now we find that "its most stable product in years... ...(you know, the Windows OS that actually has hardware/peripheral support, a lot of software written for it, needs a lighter hardware platform, etc.)". So after 2 service packs and a few years, XP went from insecure "bloatware" to "stable" and needing a "lighter platform".
I actually remember the same being said about Win98 and Win2k by users upgrading from Win95 and WinNT. In fact the system requirements for M$ OS have shown a fairly steep upward curve over the years, so this scenario is really nothing new.
Win95
Processor: 386DX or higher processor (486 recommended)
RAM: 4MB
Hard Drive Space: 50-55 MB
VGA or higher resolution (256-color SVGA recommended)
WinNT
Processor: 486 25MHz or faster
RAM:12MB
Hard Drive Space: 124MB
Video: VGA (Video Graphics Array)
Win98
Processor 486DX 66MHz or faster
RAM: 16M
Hard Drive Space: 140 MB - 255 MB
VGA or higher resolution (16-bit or 24-bit color SVGA recommended).
Win2K
Processor: Pentium-compatible 133MHz
RAM: 64MB
Hard Drive Space: 2GB hard disk with a minimum of 650 MB of free space. (Additional free hard disk space is required if you are installing over a network.)
WinXP
Processor: Intel Pentium/Celeron family or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family 233MHz or faster
RAM: 128MB
Hard Drive Space: 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space
Vista
Processor: 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
RAM: 512 MB of system memory
Hard Drive Space: 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor
Personally I won't bother with Vista, not because I hate M$ or prefer Linux, but mainly because I don't see it as having anything to offer me. I expect that is the main reason why sales have slumped. It has taken all these years for people to adjust to XP. What initially a shaky product that had it's fair share of bad press, has eventually matured enough, and is now seen as the old reliable by many.
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I used Windows 2000 for a long time before I finally used XP. I don't even remember why I turned to XP, whether it was necessity or fancier graphics (or both). Probably both but more necessity than eye candy due to games probably supporting 2k less and less. When I think of it I wish I still used 2k all this time and that all the games would still run on it today. It's all NT anyway with some upgraded stuff here and there.
And when I have a quick skim through this, heheheh... Well, we more or less know the criticisms regarding Vista, but reading that simple list makes me view Vista as "something that is constructed by the devil (if there is a devil of course)"
But in any case, it will probably be the case that XP will be "rendered outdated" in some years, and in these years it is fair to assume Vista will have become an acceptable standard much like XP has become one and 2k before it, and so on. Until then or if otherwise necessitated I shall maintain my possession and utilization of XP.
What Microsoft has been stating in the provided article is... well, I don't want to go into too much detail, ...I'll take the easy way: it's Microsoft *runs off*
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IMO, it wasn't until SP2 that XP had gotten right "right". It was the clear choice over both Win2000 and 98SE for workstations. For 2000 users, it had better driver support, ect and for 98SE users, it offered the much improved NTFS (compared to FAT32), as well as far superior process management.
So... what does Vista have that users want? Oh right, a lower TCO.
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Just an attempt by Micro$$$oft to try to make some bucks off a rather OS. While it's not as pathetic as Sony's attempts to push the PS3 forward, it is kind of annoying.
I like XP. I works. Hell, 98 still works. Also, I don't like it when companies try to shove their new OS in my face. It looks nice, IMO, but I don't need it just yet.
Wait a couple of years and Microsoft will forget all about XP and start cursing Vista for its instability, lack of backwards compatibility, and poor driver quality. It's all a process.
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Bowing to pressure from customers and computer makers, Microsoft plans to keep Windows XP around a little longer.
Large PC manufacturers were slated to have to stop selling XP after January 31. However, they have successfully lobbied Microsoft to allow them to continue selling PCs with all flavors of Windows XP preloaded until June 30, a further five months. Microsoft also plans to keep XP on retail shelves longer and will allow computer makers in emerging markets to build machines with Windows XP Starter Edition until June 2010.
The move indicates the continued demand for the older operating system, some nine months after Windows Vista hit store shelves.
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Bowing to pressure from customers and computer makers, Microsoft plans to keep Windows XP around a little longer.
Large PC manufacturers were slated to have to stop selling XP after January 31. However, they have successfully lobbied Microsoft to allow them to continue selling PCs with all flavors of Windows XP preloaded until June 30, a further five months. Microsoft also plans to keep XP on retail shelves longer and will allow computer makers in emerging markets to build machines with Windows XP Starter Edition until June 2010.
The move indicates the continued demand for the older operating system, some nine months after Windows Vista hit store shelves.
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Further evidence that people just don't want Vista.
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