Ansehelm is Duke though, and if people in your house are involved, its difficult to ignore the one who should be in charge.
Got save btw
Ansehelm is Duke though, and if people in your house are involved, its difficult to ignore the one who should be in charge.
Got save btw
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I know, but if I think of something to affect the entire Reich, and someone says he would rather not be involved, I would make sure he can in no way be involved.Originally Posted by FactionHeir
I'm still here. I said I want Ansehelm to sit it out.If you really want to sit this out, I suggest that you make Fritz Steward of Franconia for the next 18 turns. There's no point continuing in this vein if it is just getting you angry OOC.
Just you guys make sure from now on not to blame Ansehelm (which Elberhard keeps on doing), as I said I don't want him involved in this, so don't involve him in it.
Stig,
While OOC we know that Peter missing is because of our "plot", we don't know that IC. It is natural to blame the person we perceive to be responsible. Which in this case, is Peter's Duke. I don't want to stop interacting with you IC so we need to figure out how to go about this. When we blame Ansehelm, we are just playing a role. It's nothing to do with you and nothing against you. I know you the player have nothing to do with it. So please understand that if you continue to keep playing Peter's Duke, we are going to come to you with questions about Peter. It's only natural. Unless we work something else out. Maybe you and Econ can think of something and get back to us.
I know stuff is getting heated IC but I want to do my part to keep the OOC all
*edit*
Nevermind, I saw you just said you want Ansehelm to sit this out. Sorry for missing that.![]()
Last edited by Privateerkev; 09-26-2007 at 23:18.
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Stig - from your continued posts in the Diet, Ansehelm is clearly not sitting it out and is getting himself very involved. You can't complain if this leads to in character responses.Originally Posted by Stig
Well yeah, but as I said, what happens if I ignore everything. Because you guys decided to do something with Franconia Ansehelm is automatically drawn in. As PK said.Originally Posted by econ21
Would you have done it with Bavaria, Swabia or Austria I could sit it out.
If you're looking for a good out, Stig, you could go for the "long illness". Northnovas used this when he was on vacation. It keeps you out of the action, and you get plausible deniability for anything that happens while you're sick.
Your call.
Also, while I don't know the details, I'm sure all the houses are going to be dragged through the @#@$ before it's all said and done.
Chretien Saisset, Chevalier in the King of the Franks PBM
Gibson is acting on his own initiative - neither TinCow, Ituralde nor myself asked him too. However, we did happily accept his suggestions as they fit perfectly with our draft plot. Just because you personally are opposed to this cataclysm event, you cannot OOC veto Franconian players from being involved just because IC you play their Duke.
As I see it, you can either be in this as Duke, and not complain OOC, or you can get Ansehelm to resign/appoint a Steward, and happily sit it out.
Your staying involved IC and getting pissed off OOC is not going to make this a good experience for you. Or me.
I'm not involved because I want to be involved, and making someone a Steward is a lousy way out imo. It's just that when Peter deserted people began shouting at Ansehelm.
As I said, I wanted Ansehelm to easely sit this out in Magdeburg or so, from where he can comment on things but only would he want it. Because of this, Ansehelm needs to stay in the frontline as we lack commanders.
Stig, if Ansehlem remains Duke then Elberhard will have to interact with him and I will have him do it strictly in character. If that leads to bad feelings on your part OOC, as it apparently has done in the past, then I apologise but it will not be my intention.
Don't worry, there will be plenty of time for outrage against Lothar soon enough. Peter is just one piece in a larger puzzle. He just happens to be the focus at the moment. Once the next part of the plot unfolds, the Diet will almost forget about him.Originally Posted by Stig
I have the save.
Chretien Saisset, Chevalier in the King of the Franks PBM
Given that we have 24 hr turns, I am not going to be able to fight Fritz' battle. I had planned to last night but RL got in the way. Again. Gah.
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Battle fought and won.
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I put my pavise xbmen in loose formation and skirmished with the Polish Nobles. This worked great, but as soon as I advanced to envelop the main body, they fled even before the lines made contact. This might be explained by the fact that Joachim of Lwow, their leader, has had several runs in with Peter before and so has several negative command traits such as "afraid of the dark".
I apologize to AG for not giving them an authoritative crushing, but casualties were light for our side.
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Chretien Saisset, Chevalier in the King of the Franks PBM
thanks fritz
hans - way to sell me out! haha
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