Conscript Fathers, Roma has called for you!

**TWFanatic** · 09-23-2007, 15:50

Wise words, Senator Karo.

Senator Madmatg, there is no C in my name.

More importantly, Pyrrhus will agree to peace and trade rights if we exterminate the people of Tarentum, of this I assure you. I shall do my victory jig in your face after I am proven right...

Now normally I would agree with you. The long-term economic consequences of such butchery would outweigh the short-term gain. But the Tarentines are not a normal people. They breed like snails, and I assure you that it will not take long for the streets to again be backed by 8 am every morning. Besides...we desperately need the mnaii to start a building program and train more men.

Senators! We need bullion for the sake of maintaining our army and constructing buildings of importance for Roma and her allies. Of this, few will disagree. Our opinions deviate over how we should do this.

If we do conquer Italia, I promise an instantaneous massive boost to our treasury. Then we can follow the noble pursuits of Senator Night, with our borders secured and peace achieved.

I have another proposition: Send our army to Capua. There we can supply them with superior arms & armor. All except the triarii should receive these. My reason for excluding them is simple - the cost of upgrading their armor is nearly 9 times more than doing so for the principes. Too damn expensive!

I object to the proposition of Senator Poulp that we rally our army south of Arpi. It would be of benefit to garrison the city with a large force and Consul Scipio for a time, however. I have no fear whatsoever of being attacked, we far outnumber the Tarentines and have superior infantry. It would be impossible for them to defeat us in the open field.

Regarding construction...I believe we should upgrade the Military Industrial Complex in Roma. We have need of extraodinarii cavalry, which cannot be trained without superior horse breeders.

And again, I propose training accensi as a garrison force. It costs less to maintain them than any other force we have.

Do my fellow senators agree?

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I think it's interesting to see people's different styles of gameplay. Unsurprisingly, everyone thinks theirs is the best.

**CaesarAugustus** · 09-23-2007, 19:02

Originally Posted by TWFanatic

Regarding construction...I believe we should upgrade the Military Industrial Complex in Roma. We have need of extraodinarii cavalry, which cannot be trained without superior horse breeders.

And again, I propose training accensi as a garrison force. It costs less to maintain them than any other force we have.

Do my fellow senators agree?

I would suggest using leves as a garrison instead of accensi. Although they do cost a bit more, the unit is much larger and is still very cheap, and they will defend the city better in the event of a surprise attack.

I agree that we should upgrade the MIC of Roma. I would also suggest the we lower Roma's tax rate to "Low". Yes, this will create a defecit but it can be overcome by taxing the people of the other four cities into the ground, and Roma will bebefit from the rapidly increasing population and happiness. We can then set the tax rate back to Normal or High once Roma reaches the next level of settlement, and we will be pleasantly surprised that we have many more plebs to tax.

(I dont suppose I can sign myself Caesar Avgvstvs, can I?

Unless nobody in the Senate objects to the title?)

**alatar** · 09-23-2007, 19:42

Why should we slaughter the greeks? It makes more sence to enslave them.

Scipio and Cotta would make a formidable legion (the boy Cotta is exceptionally talented).

The Celts to our north will not trouble us, and if we quickly crush Taras, and unite southern italy, we will be at lessiure to recrit a further two legions.

Senatore Drussivs Tiberivs Claudivs.

**TWFanatic** · 09-23-2007, 19:48

This is going to take forever.

Senator Fanatic has been assassinated.

**Karo** · 09-23-2007, 19:58

Because we need to set an example for our enemy that war with us is not their best intrest.

And with two legions we have enough we will need the extra money to build our infrastructure. We need to earn enough internal as we do with foreigeners.

And I agree the celts are not a thread for now, we need to attack Southren-Italy and anax it and than we can talk about future wars with someone else.

Lucius Armenicus Julius

**TWFanatic** · 09-23-2007, 20:10

*jumps out of casket*
Sorry, but I just don't have the time.

*jumps back in casket*

**Jesus_saves** · 09-23-2007, 20:11

Originally Posted by Karo

Because we need to set an example for our enemy that war with us is not their best intrest.

And with two legions we have enough we will need the extra money to build our infrastructure. We need to earn enough internal as we do with foreigeners.

And I agree the celts are not a thread for now, we need to attack Southren-Italy and anax it and than we can talk about future wars with someone else.

Lucius Armenicus Julius

Let's be reasonable here senator! the Greeks are a civilized people! if we need to make an example of some one then let us do so to the savages in the north.

I'd also I like to propose making a trade agreement with Macedon and Athens.

-Lucius Cassius Aurelius

**Poulp'** · 09-23-2007, 20:17

Originally Posted by TWFanatic

This is going to take forever.

Senator Fanatic has been assassinated.

console_command kill_character led to CTD
train another assassin and try again next turn

**Jesus_saves** · 09-23-2007, 20:22

Originally Posted by TWFanatic

This is going to take forever.

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Yeah, I think we should start writing bills at this point all the talking's going to get us no where.

**CaesarAugustus** · 09-23-2007, 20:38

Fellow Senators, we keep talking about rasing and sending 'legions', but we do not say how many men each legion should have! I propose that each legions raised should be standardised to no less than XV units, with at least III units of Hastati, III Principes, and II Triarii to provide the fighting core.

OOC: This is kind of confusing, perhaps Long lost Caesar could edit his first post with all of the propositions so far and the number of votes, like the Council of Koinon Hellenon?

~Gaius Octavius Magnus

**Long lost Caesar** · 09-23-2007, 21:36

Well said senator Magnus, I think i should revise the rules a bit. I'll get onto it now, but I hope at least some of you will hang around. At the very least come back on tuesday, as by then I think I will have easily conquered Italia. And remember that this will take time, and as someone mentioned before, the first turn will be the longest, due to the fact that i cant play the game thanks to a huuge mistake involving getting rid of Barbarian Invasion, but tomorrow after school one of my mates will lend me a cd i burned for him. much thanks for the input and all!

Senator Cant Decidacus a Namus

**madmatg** · 09-23-2007, 19:58

I must humbly apologize to you senator TW as i have been butchering your name in my ignorance. You should not leave our lovely debate as this first turn will most definitely take the most time and effort to get done as we start anew, wait until the first few season are done before running away please!

Also i agree with the senators who have proposed the enslavement of the greeks in the south, as well as the fleets disbandment, and the training of levees to be sent south to garrison our cities.

I believe our newer cities should shoulder the larger % burden of our taxes, as our republic grows we can shift this out to whatever outlying provinces are newest.

Mattevs Graccvs